Avira AntiVir 9 released!

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Cutting_Edgetech, Mar 17, 2009.

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  1. mantra

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    better then nod32 2.7?
     
  2. EASTER

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    No it does not by any stretch if i might be so inclined to point out an opinion based on past & present experience.

    Yours may be different as others may also.

    It is however meant as a definitive note of distinguishing between two experiences or fields of expertise that have been expert in their respective divisions. AV's in theirs, and AS's in theirs respectively.

    The comparison that i make to draw out doesn't in any fashion discredit any AV, in this case Avira, from exercising from a point of strength now as to do with antispyware. In fact the two have always been at various times closely linked depending on severity and method of disrupting normal PC actions. To just throw in the towel as suggested and indicate that as an opinion or matter of non-trust isn't really the issue being driven at here.

    To make matters short let's use an analogy. Would you take your vehicle having engine problems to a transmission shop for an expert analysis, or by the same token knowing your transmission is slipping or worse approach strickly an engine shop for it's repair?

    Not quite an accurate enough analogy that does the justice to this comparison needed, but the point trying to be made here is that if Avira has the same or even better antispyware protection then those companies that have specialized in just this business specifically for their entire franchise life, then you can rest assured that they've come a long way in a short span of time and like is been mentioned, no other AS is needed or ever will be again. The same however also applies in reverse as to do with AntiSpyware companies that include virus definitions and removals in their programs.

    So in the end, the proof is in the putting, and the results that follow. But some seasoned users certainly you wouldn't think rush so quick to judgement and in haste to a new feature as a antispyware integrated within even a very high quality AntiVirus program as Avira is, or any other for that matter, without gradually weighing all the results/statistics that are yet to make it to the tally sheet just yet.

    Just a little food for thought, nothing else.

    If the new Avira AS turns out to eclipse and even surpass long seasoned antispyware companies this soon, whats to worry about. We got the best of both worlds all rolled up in a single package. And whats so wrong with that? I even agree, if it runs both gambits on an even keel, there you go, no need to bother with another AS at all. I just think it's a bit early though to come to that sort of conclusion at this point in time. Let these new features get off the ground first and prove themselves before simply cancelling all interest and calling off all bets for any other AS's just yet.

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  3. virtumonde

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    Maybe for most members out here but users in Avira forum who clean their PC's with malwarebytes mostly(Sas is a equal competitor doesn't matter which one it is)won't agree with you.This applyies to other av products not only avira
    Of course there are other questions regarding realtime protection of these antispyware tools and in case of detection how will the realtime guards of Avira and SaS or Mbam will react if they both detect an executed threat.
     
  4. Bunkhouse Buck

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    I am a member of the Avira forum and I don't see a preponderance of cleaning with malwarebytes, and many of the members that have problems are novices.

    I do not recommend running two real time guards. The best protection is not an AV or AS, but an image that can be restored if malware attacks.
     
  5. EASTER

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    Absolutely agree. User's are asking for stalling issues or worse if running two resident real-time guards. Myself, Avira's 9 Guard is FANTASTIC! As far as Anti-Spyware, SAS just nailed a bad group that neither NOD or AVIRA picked up on. I don't recall MBAM even alerting to it after a scan, i use both On-Demand Only of course, and i also recommend only a single real-time GUARD for reasons already stated.

    I think it's a worthy step to add an AS feature in Avira 9 but i already get plenty of Avira GUARD alerts on even Heuristic pickups like NIRSOFT'S tools which is just dandy with me. Some users want AVIRA to exclude them, i disagree, if you want to exclude them, add your NIRSOFT folder or any other tool folder being alerted to by the GUARD to Avira's exclusion box. That's why they put it in there. I don't want the excellent Avira Heuristics degraded or limited in any fashion because it's fashioned for exactly that reason, to alert to a suspicious file that just might one day be either something new or serious not yet added for inclusion in it's signature database.

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  6. demonon

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    Avira already had as for a long time. The only thing that changed is that avira personal edition now too has as.
     
  7. EASTER

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    Being a long time NOD32 user i surely wasn't even aware of that. Thanks for clearing that up.

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  8. Carver

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    I am STILL having connection problems with Avira v9 and CIS, I was using Avira v8 and CIS and I had No problems. The problems started when I updated to Avira v9. I uninstalled Avira v9 through Control Pannel/add remove then reinstalled Avira v9 it didn't work I still had connection problems and it stops all pop connections if the mailGuard is enabled. I had to do a full restore with ATI 11. I am Thinking about going back to Avira v8 o_O
     
  9. R3XNebular

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    I keep getting Discart TCP traffic from different IP's, what does that mean?
     
  10. mantra

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    it light and fast like nod32 2.7?
    because i'm considering to buy avira
    in some tests , seems one of the more slow and heavy av (avira)
     
  11. Page42

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    Quotable Quotes...

     
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  12. demonon

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    Funny indeed, only some of us were misinformed and others knew more.
     
  13. Kerodo

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    Quite the opposite, it's very light and fast...
     
  14. agagouga

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    My 12h experience with avira 9 (free) was not so good...
    1)too heavy on resources for my taste
    2)update sucks, the window hunged many times at 0%
    3)not red-hot with detection rate (at agagouga-comparatives :D )
    4)too many false positives (sysinternals, soundblaster updates, and many more)

    After this, i turned avira to on-demand scanner (turned off 'avgnt' from auto-runs, and turned the avira services to manual/disabled from safe mode).
     
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    really? hmm what ur experiencing seems to be almost the exact opposit of what everyone else is... strange :doubt:
     
  16. agagouga

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    Hmmm, yes, at least with my computer and my configuration (and me as the user :D).
    There isn't any 'perfect' product to make happy all users & customers, is it? :D
    Didn't say that avira is a bad product, i have keep it for on demand scanner.

    (edit) forgot to say that i tried avira with pc1 of my signature (CIS av turned off, 2GB ram), maybe CIS, A2 with Mamutu & Avira together is too much, a security overkill :)
     
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  17. Kerodo

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    I'd say you may have had some conflicts going on between Avira 9 and CIS, not the CIS AV, but just CIS in general. Overkill perhaps....
     
  18. mantra

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    did you try to disable comodo firewall , i mean defend+?
     
  19. Waterfox

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    The only way to get an answer to that question is to try it out on your system and see how it behaves.
     
  20. Arup

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    Not red hot detection rates........OH! MY!.....thought I would never hear it levelled against Avira but its good, now the heat will finally be off Avira once for all.
     
  21. Bunkhouse Buck

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    agagouga obviously feels compelled to insert some bullshit into the discussion. Always happens- they can't beat Avira's detection rate so they focus on alleged FPs (I never had one in over three years of use with every setting on max) or they assert some absurdity like not red hot detection. What a forum!
     
  22. andyman35

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    I'm running the exact same combo on one of my systems with no issues at all,the only difference is I'm running D+ in Safe Mode.:doubt:
     
  23. Arup

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    From day one, I have had everything on high in Avira and for years, only one FP and thats KC Software's ID Photo program which has been fixed long while back. I run all heuristics on high including Web Guard and now have the i-frames setting on max as well.
     
  24. agagouga

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    :thumbd: :thumbd: :thumbd: :mad: No comments

    I repeat from my previous post:
    SYSINTERNALS, SOUNDBLASTER UPDATE
    Are these alleged FPs? Go try sysinternals suite for your self (with database of 21-22/3/09 as it may be fixed right now

    I said-> with MY comperatives

    This is a serious forum, not fan-boys playground
     
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  25. agagouga

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    Hi andyman35, thanks for your comment. You have A2/mamutu also? I 'll give it another try, as i haven't uninstall avira
     
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