What is AppGuard

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by trjam, Jan 26, 2009.

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  1. korb

    korb Registered Member

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    hi eirik,about the updated appguard.it now block autorun.inf in usb but allow to access my thumbdrive without suspending the usb function.am i right to say that? last version was totally block access untill i suspend usb from guard.

    vista 32bit
     
  2. Kees1958

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    Eirik, you have got my private e-mail. Let's discuss this directly, thx
     
  3. Criss

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    Eirik i have a problem now.

    In the past few days, appguard will block googleupdate.exe and rtkbtmnt.exe from running. But now it won't block it anymore. Any problem here?? o_O

    This is the entries in event viewer that stated it blocked them.

     
  4. Criss

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    Erm Eirik here come another problem. :doubt:

    After using the computer for awhile, appguard suddenly state in the gui that it have prevented googleupdate.exe from running but it didn't Look at the pic below.

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  5. Eirik

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    Google Chrome is a pain in the ass! The developers made it to install in user-space so enterprise employees Could install it on their machines if they lacked admin rights. AppGuard was not designed to accomodate complex applications, with non-trivial life-cycle issues (frequent self-updates), from living in user-space.

    So, I've added googleupdate.exe to my guard list. This is to allow it to launch and check for updates. However, when it finds an update, it creates a new executable of a seemingly arbitrary file name to perform the update. Not knowing what this is, AppGuard blocks it. When I see that AppGuard has blocked one of these update executables, I check the Google Chrome site for latest version when I feel like confirming, and then I suspend 'drive-by' and trigger Chrome to update.

    Now back to Criss, I believe you have not added googleupdate.exe to your 'guard list' and yet it can launch?

    I'm unfamiliar with rtkbtmnt.exe, would you please tell me about it? Also, do you want it to be able to launch?

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  6. Criss

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    Yup, googleupdate.exe is not in the 'guard list' and yet it can launch, and rtkbtmnt.exe too.

    Erm..i also dono much about rtkbtmnt.exe. i only know that it is something related to realtek. Maybe some folks here can explain what is it. :p

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  7. jmonge

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    Information about the windows process RtkBtMnt.EXE
    Click here to run a Free Scan for RtkBtMnt.EXE related errorsCompany
    Company Name Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    Legal Copyright Copyright (c) 2001-2004 Realtek Semiconductor Corp.
    Company Website
    Product
    Product Name Realtek HD Audio Data Rerouter
    Description
    Product web site

    RtkBtMnt.exe file information
    The process Realtek HD Audio Data Rerouter belongs to the software Realtek HD Audio Data Rerouter or Adobe AIR by Realtek Semiconductor Corp (www.realtek.com.tw).

    Description: RtkBtMnt.exe is located in a subfolder of "C:\Documents and Settings" or sometimes in the Windows Temp folder. Known file sizes on Windows XP are 507,904 bytes (47% of all occurrence), 488,448 bytes, 500,224 bytes, 208,896 bytes.
    The program has no visible window. The file is not a Windows core file. RtkBtMnt.exe is able to record inputs. Therefore the technical security rating is 42% dangerous, however also read the users reviews.

    Descriptionrtkbtmnt.exe is a Realtek HD Audio Data Rerouter\r from Realtek Semiconductor Corp.\r belonging to Realtek HD Audio Data Rerouter\r

    There are 9 variants of rtkbtmnt.exe in our database.

    # File Size Threat Company Name File Locations CLSID
    1 477 KB Safe Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%temp%]\
    2 488 KB Under Review Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%temp%]\
    3 488 KB Safe Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%temp%]\ [%documents_and_settings%]
    4 496 KB Safe Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%temp%]\
    5 204 KB Under Review Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%temp%]\ [%documents_and_settings%]
    6 204 KB Under Review Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%root%]\users\adware.agent.bn\appdata\local\temp\
    7 208 KB Under Review Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%temp%]\
    8 208 KB Under Review Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%temp%]\
    9 208 KB Under Review Realtek Semiconductor Corp. [%temp%]\


    some thing like that:it is safe:)
     
  8. Eirik

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    Hi All,

    As many of you know, we position AppGuard as an easy to use protection from malware that eludes signature-based anti-malware tools. So, an individual can enjoy very good protection with AppGuard plus a simple signature-based product.

    Well, I wish to ask your opinion. For the average computer user, not a relatively advanced, sophisticated user like a Wilder's poster, what single signature-based product that generates no false positives would you recommend for:

    - a novice individual user (product that is free for personal use)

    - small business with unsophisticated IT support (product that is either free or inexpensive but may be used by a business per EULA)

    In this scenario, there's no other security software except a simple personal firewall, which I'd like to ignore for the moment.

    Thanks,

    Eirik
     
  9. Criss

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    For a novice individual user, i would recommend avast home editiion.

    For small business with unsophisticated IT support, i think eset nod32 or norton suit your case as they are known in giving low false positive although avira didnt giv me any false positive before. :D


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  10. GES/POR

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    There is no such scanner, even those that are known to have the least false positives can generate more then is acceptable depending on the amount and sort of files to scan. What i would recommend is choosing a company that solves them quickly and without any major hassle
     
  11. trjam

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    how bout Norton.
     
  12. Eirik

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    Most consumers (80% or more) buy security products from Symantec and McAfee because they 'trust' the big named vendors. I'd like to confidently say,

    'with AppGuard, you don't have to buy or continue to rent the most expensive AntiVirus/Spyware product to have peace of mind.'

    'AppGuard and XXX combined will provide better protection for less money.'
     
  13. trjam

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    oh I agree, if I had Norton or Mac, I would have AppGuard in a second. But I feel that some, like F-Secure with HIPS, bridges that gap. Avira will be to soon.
     
  14. pandlouk

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    For novices I reccomend any of the following free antiviruses:
    Active background scanners
    Avast
    Avira(does not have antispyware protection)
    AVG
    PCtools Free(does not have antispyware protection)

    For medium/advanced users
    Comodo Suite (gives false positivies)

    On demmand scanners
    a-squared Free
    BitDefender Free Edition

    Active background scanners
    Comodo Suite
    PCtools Free

    On demand scanners
    a-squared Free
    BitDefender Free Edition

    ps. Novice home users usually love Online Armor Free or Zone alarm free firewalls

    Hope it helps,
    Panagiotis
     
  15. Triple Helix

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    Hi Eirik,

    I had to remove AppGuard for the time being as there are conflicks with SUPER AS and Trojan Remover! With Trojan Remover it is an Update Issue not a crashing problem like with SUPER AS!

    Let me know if there is a new build that will let us Exclude Programs that we need to! It would #1 on my list of things to do.

    TH
     
  16. danny9

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    Do you run SAS in real time?
    I've used it on demand only without any problems with AppGuard.
    I know all systems are different, just curious is all. :)
     
  17. Triple Helix

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    Yes I do but I tried to not use the Guard in SAS but still crashes.
     
  18. Eirik

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    Sorry to hear the children aren't getting along. If you happen to still have the Windows Event Logs showing any blocking events, and can send it to appguard@blueridgenetworks.com, we might learn something new about how AppGuard gets in the way of Trojan Remover.

    Thanks for reminding me about the 'Exclude Programs" feature idea.

    Cheers,

    Eirik
     
  19. jmonge

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    or sort of white list for safe programs:thumb:
     
  20. trjam

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    ok Eirik, where ya at. We need a update on this great product. Slipping r u?;)
     
  21. Eirik

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    Hi Guys,

    I'm still here.

    I've been busy rolling out an affiliate program for AppGuard sales, which means getting it up on web portals and mom/pop websites too. At the risk of blatantly promoting AppGuard, anyone with a website can become an affiliate partner. I've gotta generate more revenue to get a larger engineering team to build out cool features faster.

    I don't have a date for the next AppGuard release yet. We are working on an EdgeGuard release first to accomodate some large enterprise requirements.

    And, we're working on Windows 7 support in AppGuard/EdgeGuard for an as yet unscheduled release (prototyping at this point). Let me caution folk on Windows 7, there will be relatively few such PCs for quite a while. Our focus for Windows 7 right now is to provide Microsoft early developer feedback and support their release efforts. I'm pleased to say we are the first vendor to employ some Windows 7 low-level capabilities. As such, engineering has provided them with some very useful feedback and have helped them identify specific requirements for additional ones. Let me say again, Windows 7 production support is a long ways off.

    So, we're keeping busy. And I continue to tally feature requests/improvements from all-comers.

    Cheers,

    Eirik
     
  22. fce

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    if i use AppGuard with KIS2009 and Sandboxie....is AppGuard duplicate more KIS functionality or vise versa?

    Anybody use this 3 security software under Vista OS?
     
  23. Triple Helix

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    Thanks Eirik for the update with AppGuard! If you have any info before you have a new release be sure to let us know!

    TH
     
  24. SIR****TMG

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    I just bought a copy to support you. Keep up the great work...:thumb:
     
  25. Criss

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    I am using this 3 programmes in vista. ;) But i am using avira instead kaspersky.

    I don think there is any overlapping with using appguard and kaspersky together. But there will be an incompatibility using sandboxie and appguard together with their default setting. However, you juz need to set the container of sandboxie to D: drive and u can use their together. :D

    Criss.
     
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