Edge, 2 months and your thoughts.

Prevx 3 is Edge... v3.0

 

As PrevxHelp said, Prevx 3 is Edge. Sandboxing is something I think you are going to see a lot of vendors do in the future. But I promise you, if I am wrong, a "terraforming" I will do.

 

I give up.

 

Well it does say Prevx Edge v3.0, so it makes sense what the people from Prevx say...

 

Then why are they still selling Prevx 2 ?

Actually if they can simply say that EDGE is Prevx 3 then I don´t see why its not CSI as well. Get what I mean ? Its all blurry.

Click product comparison;
http://www.prevx.com/prevxedge.asp

Who the hell is going to buy CSI and Prevx 2 ? Yet they offer them still, as if they are entirely different products.

 

3.0 is the version. It applies to these 3 products. That is all there is.

http://www.prevx.com/products.asp

 

But Joe, based on this Prevx 2 is still for sale. What gives.

http://www.prevx.com/buyoptions.asp

 

Quoting Joe:

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1347844&postcount=83

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showpost.php?p=1357022&postcount=915

 

thanks Marcos, now I remember all of that. Personally, Edge is still all you need.

 

Thanks.

Funny about the help me choose, and then see the comparison chart.

PrevxHelp quote;
¨For instance, if you use the advanced features found in the Expert mode of Prevx2, you may want to continue using it as it does give you more granularity over the protection aspects. However, Edge's protection "out of the box" far surpasses Prevx2's protection thanks to our new advanced heuristics and behavioral analysis techniques.¨

¨Edge has superior malware removal, rootkit detection, and heuristic protection to Prevx2. However, Prevx2 DOES have malware removal, rootkit detection, and heuristic protection - however, Edge's is just significantly improved.¨

He he.. I get headaches now.

 

So, whats up with 64bit version? Anything new?

 

Next major update will add 64 bit support too

 

(Sorry for the belated response - I was out to dinner )

We still offer Prevx2 for the users which do like the granular control - there is no denying that there are users who like the Expert control over what happens in their computer. However, moving forward, we tend to side with the other 99.99% of users that prefer silent security.

CSI is also available for download/sale for the large number of users who do not want to pay for full realtime protection but only want cleanup and scanning functionality.

The 64bit version is nearing completion and the next update will include 64bit support as well as the aforementioned improvements

 

Ok, I will bite. So Edge is really the best of CSI and Prevx 2 which is what I thought. Now, playing the devils advocate here, I always liked the network protection side of Prevx 2. So what is there or will be on that issue. Personally, give Edge the big Green icon from Prevx 2. I love that tray icon, or miss it.

 

I agree about the headaches!

Prevx2 was written when rootkits were not yet prevalent and the ones that were are easily covered by Prevx2's detection engines.

However, as infections got more complex, we needed to design a new engine to handle these threats which led to CSI. The changes were simply too intensive to add into Prevx2 and we had wanted to streamline everything.

So, now you get nearly all of the advanced functionality of Prevx2, more rootkit detection, better cleanup, and all in 1/16th the size with significantly less overhead

 

So far, we do not have network protection planned. There are so many (free) products which do protect the network already that we would, at this point, rather just work alongside them than try and replace them.

However, is it completely out of the question - definitely not We just have a large number of unique features coming down the pipeline first before we start implementing common features (to give users the most incremental benefit when using Edge).

We're always willing to take suggestions if anyone has any more

 

Sorry, I don't remember the name of the rootkit.

 

What is "network protection"?

Of course I have... My two cents about on-demand scanning by right-clicking on single files:

- You can't rely on it. So it's useless.
- It is missunderstood by AV testers.
- It just doesn't fit into Edge's concept, that is focused on active threats.

So why not just drop that feature? And there are even more things that I (the average user ) just don't need...

I agree that Prevx 2 is quite different to Edge. So I understand that it is still available. I really appriciate that Prevx uses its experience from many years to develop better software. And that we may upgrade for free.

By the way: What does the word "edge" mean in the context of that software? I had a look into a dictionary, but there are many meanings and I still don't really understand. And: What does the icon of Edge mean?

Thank you, Prevx, for your great support (in many ways)!
Jan

(edited to avoid further missunderstanding (like below))

 

Hello,
Network protection can fall under a few different umbrellas - either protecting against programs accessing the internet or protecting the internet from accessing programs. In a basic sense, this is the functionality of a firewall, which is why we don't want to overlap this functionality currently.

Some users (mostly corporate users) do like on demand scanning to detect threats that may have gotten past their resident AV without having to install another AV to detect in realtime. However, if you have resident protection from Edge, there would really not be much of a need at all to run on demand scans in Edge... UNLESS... you have disabled protection. If protection is ever disabled in Edge, you would need to run an on demand scan to make sure nothing got in between when you disabled and when you enabled it. That's essentially the main reason of why we have the on demand scanner in.

The word "Edge" can be interpreted a number of ways, most commonly as "cutting edge" = new and unique. There are a handful of English phrases including the word Edge

The icon is based on the CSI icon which started out as a combination of a few different icons. If you look overly deeply at it, you will notice that it is in the shape of a C - for CSI, and the alternating black/yellow lines around the outside are the eyelashes, with the black circle in the middle being the iris/pupil.

It does make more sense for CSI than it does for Edge, but Edge is based on CSI so we gave them the same icon Edge just changes the color of the icon in the system tray depending on the status

 

Thank you PrevxHelp for your explainations!

Maybe I should have expressed myself more clearly: I was not talking about that "Scan Now" functionality on the main screen of Edge, but about that single/multple file scanning by right-clicking. The result seems to "irritate" some of the AV testers.

 

Ahh yes! I completely agree and very much dislike that functionality myself

We didn't have it implemented in the beta but put it in the final release because of the volume of reports from users that wanted the feature

You can disable it, of course, but that doesn't help stirring up misconceptions about the scanning abilities

 

Suddenly I feel observed.

 

It could be worse. You could feel observed by a creepy and evil eye...

http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/8522/28850483we4.png

(Shadow Defender). At times i still feel uncomfortable looking at it. This is the no1 horror tray icon in the security business. (Nice try PrevX, but you 're not that creepy yet).

 

So... why not incorporate the granularity from PrevX2 into Prevx Edge 3.0? Make it have an option for granularity for those that want more granularity in their diet?

Lets face it.. it is confusing having all three product lines.

Maye you should rename CSI to Prevx Hedge 3.0 (H=home)
and Prevx Edge 3.0 stays the same (E = Elite/Pro)

 

We aren't trying for the creepy aspect of it at all We picked the "eye" because of CS<I> = eye (intentional play on words...) and because of how we "see" threats

Obscure? Yes Does it work as an abstract icon? I think so