Application Firewall Without HIPS

Aplication Firewall Without HIPS

Gizmo's Tech Support Alert does -NOT- recommend ZA Free:

"We no longer recommend the free version of the ZoneAlarm firewall.
First, it is a very basic product compared to the commercial ZoneAlarm Pro version.
The leak-test performance of the latest free version is extremely poor..." etc. etc.

 

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So what?Another online "expert"!!!!!!!!.Don't be have enough of these !!!!!.Actaully the free version i've found it trouble free ,compared to ZAP which i think still has some bugs.

 

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I agree. One can have good security even if by using firewalls that aren't leak-test champions. There are plenty of security tools to complement them with to make the setup secure enough. And i agree. Usually the more features they have, the buggier they are. Of ZAF has the "all times, evergreen" problem with Emule and Kad, but other than that, it's a fine firewall for simple use.

As for the "online experts", they are more into "online PR and marketing". The other day PC Magazine in an article was saying that the direct competitor of Comodo Firewall is Zone Alarm Free. People should try things and then think for themselves. The world is full of "objective" "experts", willing to tell you what to run and what not.

 

Light firewalls offer lighter Leak protection
compared with Comodo Firewall and OnlineArmor Free.
If you are behind a Router, *Leak protection* is
-Mostly- why you insist on using a software firewall.

I wrote insist, because users behind a Router (NAT/SPI),
don't need a software firewall that much...
Or is this fake, too?

 

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-Do you claim that the Free version of ZA offers you the same protection with the Paid one?
OR
-Because you found bugs in the Paid version of ZA, you switched to the Free version of it?

-What about other Firewalls? (Free or Paid ones?)
-Is there any reason that makes you -always- using ZA?
Because you sounded as if there are no other alternatives...

 

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No if you put much value on outbound protection.Of course the Pro has the ability to make additional rules,and the HIPS(os firewalll) will block some outbound leaks.The inbound protection afaik is the same.I just answerd regarding the topic title and the claim made on "techsupportalert.com" website quoted by you.Za free as the other solutions posted here works and does what it says.

Not my intention to sound like this,as now i just use xp built in,and on my work vista pc i use the one from KIS.
Sygate,kerio 2.15,rising,comodo 2&3(without D+) ,online armor 2(i encounterd some problems regarding p2p with OA's 3rd version),are all products that i used and worked great on my pc handling high speeds and hundreds of connections from p2p as utorrent&strong dc and many times i have this combo running at the same time.The best firewall+built in HIPS for me is Outpost 2009.
I was using an av +comodo 2 a few years ago when i was a complete noob.I clicked on an .exe thinking it was something else and 2 seconds later comodo pop's and asks if i want to allow mirc.exe to connect lol ,and i didn't had mirc installed.Eset online scanner cleared the mess,but my point is that any firewall with outbound protection would react to this.
Even Vista firewall control will stop vundo ,and other nasties to connect.If u want prevention for malware there are are other solution as i'm sure you know.

 

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The original poster is looking for something simple, no HIPS or other fancy or elaborate "stuff" like ZAP's OS Firewall or Comodo and so on. ZA Free fits the bill, but apparently slows down his/her boot time, so it's not a solution.

 

well after trying out all these suggestions, ive landed on either Rising Firewall or PC Tools Firewall (enhanced security verification disabled). both are light and i feel most comfortable using one of these 2. thx for all the suggestions, and if there's any new firewall that hasnt been mentioned yet or i haven't heard of, post a link so i can try it

 

Comodo Internet Security without D+ and without its AV component.


Sunbelt-Kerio Personal Firewall

Website: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Home-Home-Office/Sunbelt-Personal-Firewall/
Download link: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/Home-Home-Office/Sunbelt-Personal-Firewall/

 

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I have followed this post and another somewhere on the same subject and decided to try this firewall. Before doing so i uploaded the file to Jotti and virustotal. Both came back with 6 to 7 trojans for this program. From those results i declined to install.

Not sure how accurate those online scanners are but it was enough for me to stop the install and seek further clarification. Grateful for any thoughts you may have on it?

Thxs

 

And there's Filseclab.
http://www.filseclab.com/eng/products/firewall.htm
Has not been updated in years, but company is still viable.
Excellent monitoring / logging. Quite light.
A "title" search here will offer more info.

 

I was about to mention it too, but I wasn't sure if a rule based firewall was on the table.. It IS pretty light though, I remember using it with good results back in '05. It should be just as good today as then.

 

Hi Kerodo. Yea, I know, but it's light and free.
One thing I liked about Filseclab was it's logging: logged actions indicate which rule number determined the block or allow action taken.
Great convenience when troubleshooting / editing rules.

 

For Comodo Internet Security, To install the Firewall only without HIPS (Defense+). On installation, Choose COMODO Firewall>Basic Firewall and there you have just the Firewall of CIS.

Reason why Defense+ still there (but disabled) some people might want to re-enable it, which requires a reboot. It should be very light on your system, Max 7MB, Min 3MB.

 

It would be great if Comodo will make an install package with firewall only.

 

i decided to test out the annoyance factor of pc tools firewall with enhanced security enabled. PC Tools firewall seems to be so quiet that it gives me the suspicion that my pc tools firewall might have a bug, considering ive recieved nearly no pop ups other than the normal firewall internet access pop-ups. also when i run the comodo leak test i get the same result with it enabled and disabled, so this further makes me believe that there is a bug with my firewall, and idea on what it could be or possible solutions for this.

 

I believe that having the enhanced security option ticked should make no difference to a leaktest result. (Turning the whole firewall off probably would, though!)
I've seen the "HIPS -style" warning messages from it, but not often.
What I'd try and do to test it is to install some new software. Sorry I can't remember the warnings I've received, and thus be more helpful.

 

just tried installing keyscrambler premium just as a test and not a peep out of pc tools firewall.

 

You don't have it set to "quiet mode", do you?

 

nope, its on normal mode.

 

Why if you can select what to install from the current installer?

 

There is also NetVeda (free) although I do not know if it is for Vista yet. Another is FortKnox. I am not sure if FortKnox runs a cripled version after the trial or not.

http://www.netveda.com/consumer/safetynet.htm#system

http://www.fortknox-firewall.com/index.php?option=com_frontpage&Itemid=1

 

fortknox looks very interesting, is ther any reviews for it?

 

Look 'n stop anyone? It wont pass leaktests but it does exactly what a real firewall is supposed to do.

 

i already said at the start of this topic that i was looking at Application firewalls and that ive already used look n stop