Google to launch a new Browser

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  1. Bensec

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    hi twl,
    I suppose it does have a check-for-update in the svn build.
    its in the [about] dialogue. but it seems not to work for me.
    It keeps checking for minutes without returning any result.
    can anyone have a try and see if it works ? thanks
    (you know, china's network's weird in some way.)
     
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    Hello,

    I wondered what all of the furer surrounding Chrome is about. I took a walk through Google Chrome info page to see what I could find out. Just from reading their comic I could see vulnerability issues with not sand boxing the plug-ins, and I'm not a coder. I also wonder if converting java to machine code to run on the cpu is exploitable.

    I do like the way that it compartmentalizes the browser though, reducing the crashing and memory space overload, which causes other browsers to slow down or hang.

    It has a lot of good features and ideas. Security, needs improvement. If Webkit4 is stable and less vulnerable, why would you use Webkit3?
    Next, very close, if not it's own top category, stability, which it seems to have thought about well.
    Finally, speed. I can live with the current FF3 and IE7 speeds if they would improve the security to a greater degree.



    Searching
     
  3. tetsuo55

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    The updater will only work for "Stable" updates.

    You have to do manual updates from SVN if you want those
    http://build.chromium.org/buildbot/snapshots/chromium-rel-xp/

    Chromium does not suffer from the uninstal issues that google chrome does. i suggest using that instead.

    ARUP
    I tried it under LUA and it needs admin rights, after giving them my accounts got currupted and i had to reformat.

    Searching_ _ _
    You're wrong about the security.
    Chrome is fully sandboxed, so are the plugins BUT they are sandboxed on a higher level than the rest of the application. The only fix for this is new versions of the plugins.
    You should know that the other browsers have no sandboxing at all and the plugins have even MORE rights than in chrome.

    Javascript is always changed to machine code, V8 does it faster and sandboxed

    Webkit4 is not stable, its a work in progress.
     
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    To update Google Chrome see this page:

    http://www.google.com/support/chrome/bin/answer.py?answer=95414&query=update&topic=&type=
     
  5. Arup

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    I installed it separately under LUA, it would work but whenever I would try and access the options or import bookmarks featrures, it would crash, same behavior under Admin account as well.
     
  6. tetsuo55

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    Thats a 64bit bug, you can confirm it in the know issues list


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    SVN work is being done to update webkit to the latest SVN version (even newer or equal to safari4 )
     
  7. arran

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    I have been testing this browser and by using Currports I have been looking at what connections chrome has been making while loading different webpages, and I have noticed that Chrome is ALLWAYS connecting to IP 66.249.89.127 which relates to google by the way. It is very suspicious why does Chrome always need to connect to IP 66.249.89.127 every time you load a webpage??
    Is Chrome sending your browsing habits to google??
     
  8. emperordarius

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    http://news.cnet.com/8301-13860_3-10031661-56.html
     
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    It wouldn't be the first time I have been wrong. :D

    This is a direct quote from Googles sources at Chrome site!

    Having it's own process is not the same as being sandboxed.
    Besides, they state that they can't sandbox plug-ins.
    I think I will take their word for it.

    If Google has change this position, please post a link so I may improve.

    Here he explains why he released the browser.
    Google chief admits to 'defensive component' of browser launch
     
  10. tetsuo55

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    Yeah you're right only seperate process.

    Still thats better than any other browser(where the plugin can crash the entire browser)

    Your point is invalid because the behaviour is typical for ALL browsers

    All other features of chrome are at least equal or better as far as security goes.

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    The omnibar "while typing" search function can be disabled by disabling the speed up dns thing under options


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    Chromium source is being updated to Webkit ToT(bleeding edge) as we speak, if i understand correctly this tree is even newer than the one being used for Safari4
     
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    Thanks,tetsuo55,for the updater download link (post 153) :thumb:

    Just go to the latest build and use the mini installer as was previously mentioned.

    Installed yesterday's Chromium -great-and had no problems uninstalling Chrome afterwards.

    Chromium homepage here

    This interested me:

    "Q. How can I develop extensions for Chromium like in Firefox?
    A. Chromium doesn't have an extension system yet. This is something we're interested in adding in a future version. Note that Chromium does support NPAPI-style "plugins", such as Adobe Flash and Apple QuickTime."

    Needed-just too lacking in a few areas.
     
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    Chrome may suffer slow downs like FireFox according to AP reporter Peter Svensson in this video.
    He states that Chrome slows down your computer when using flash just as it would in FireFox.

    Sounds like the war has begun!

    DooDoDoooo. Charge! :D
     
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    Lol those tests are scaring me. Now that I'm suing Chrome, when I try using firefox for a page it looks like going from my Broadband connection to my shitty wireless one.
     
  15. tetsuo55

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    Interesting. Again those tests are completely crushed when an SVN version of chromium is used. The update to Webkit TOT will make the difference even bigger.

    The thing is, Chromium feels superfast although not all benchmarks confirm this.

    Its like gaming where smooth FPS is better than high peak fps
     
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    Re: Chrome is a security nightmare

    LOL thats just stupid :D

    I don't trust chrome enough yet do do anything remotely as dangerous as opening my bankaccount online with it. Although the incognito function is ment for that sort of thing i still agree that SSL sites should not be indexed (even worse they get saved to hdd with no way to disable it)
     
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    Re: Chrome is a security nightmare


    I wont trust Chrome either for my banking online,but there are people who will,and this isnt a good thing at all.
     
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    Chrome is ugly.But it's fast and stable so far for me.
     
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    Maybe the reason it's fast is because it is basic and not using resources.
     
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    Curious how you misspelled "using". LOL :D
     
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    Oops:D
     
  24. Bensec

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    Re: Chrome is a security nightmare

    Oh, ironically we are lucky enougho_O , 99% of the Chinese on-line banks use activex to enforce their security, which means you cant use non-IE browser to enter your bank account on-line.:mad:
     
  25. Bensec

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    Is starting Chrome Project good or bad?

    Hi guys,

    I need your opinion.
    Today, when I joined the heated discussion "why Google started Chrome while still funding FF" on a local IT forum, I run into the question:

    Compared to taking and transforming a well-known open-source project that has been started for years and already have it OWN style, would starting a new innovative open source project based-on some existing projects be easier and more cost(time/money) efficient ?

    I tend to think the answer is right, cauz the project like ff has already has its own style and a little bit far from what google wants (as in Chrome). and If google takes FF, the transformation process is still risky.
    My idea is still rough and not quite detailed, is there any report on similar cases, that i can refer to?

    Please help, feel free to support or attack, provide your evidence.
    I'd love to hear your opinion.
    thanks.:thumb:
     
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