Kaspersky v.8 (2009) Official Technical Release is out

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Macstorm, Apr 29, 2008.

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  1. oliverjia

    oliverjia Registered Member

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    Yeah, you may be able to uncheck the box, but KAV and KIS still add objectID to all your files in V7. I did not test if the unckeck actually works under v8.

     
  2. Baldrick

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    So on that basis you should not be using Windows...as God knows what goes on under the covers there. Some of us trust Kaspersky Labs based on its track record and personal experience with it (I myself have been using it for 3-4 years) after moving from ZoneAlarm Security Suite...and from NIS before that.
     
  3. larryb52

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    OS is really not a choice as much as security software but nice try & I do the same with Kaspersky crashed like a brick on v5 & I had to reformat to fix issues, v6 was on my wifes as was 7 than I had to reformat to fix that. Geeze my experience is 3 versions & 2 reformats not a good track record unless your fond of redoing all your personal settings & my wifes computer is a business computer for an attorney firm. Their IS dept was none too happy to have to reset programs up that she uses...that's my experience...
     
  4. Baz_kasp

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    Have run every single beta build of KIS since V7 MP1-V8 release on my laptop and it still runs like the day it was bought...

    Thats my experience :D
     
  5. dawgg

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    wow! you're extremly unlucky!
    I installed and scanned with over 50 (maybe even 100) official and beta versions of KIS v6 and 7 on my laptop and PC and have had no problems with any.
    My friends who have KIS also have not reported problems.

    I'm not saying that your problems are not from Kaspersky because I don't know, it may be; I'm just that you have to admit, the problems you have do seem like extremely isolated cases and an extremely rare problem. Out of the many hundreds of thousands (or millions) of users using Kaspersky, so few users are reporting a problem.
    ... and some of the users reporting the problem just read other threads about people complaining about Kaspersky and also think they have a problem, although their issue is often totally unrelated or is caused by something else... a tool which will act like Placebo should fix the problem for many users who are afraid of this.
     
  6. Baldrick

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    Yup...well all I can say that you have been unlucky as I have never had a BSOD or crash caused by Kaspersky by KIS since I have started using it, and that includes having taken part in the KIS 6, KIS 7 & KIS 8 beta prgrammes as a tester. I suppose that KIS just works on my rig and does not on yours...then again every time I try McAfee products they cause me problems and hence I steer clear of them. The morale is use what works best for you...and hopefully others will try and decide for themselves.:D
     
  7. rookieman

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    I'd like to give this a go later.Any suggestions on how to get rid of Comodo's latest firewall?I know I shouldn't have post that here??Any suggestions please.:'(
     
  8. trjam

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    And the band played on. People can piss, moan, groan all they want but the truth is, if it aint Kaspersky, it is dog poop. Hey Hi Tech, 2 days straight and I still love the damn thing. Larry, Larry,Larry, please dont become another Mahi Mahi.;)
     
  9. dawgg

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    Whats wrong with the good old add/remove?... or Comodo's uninstall exe?... (sorry for my ignorance if they don't exist, I haven't used it before!)
     
  10. DonKid

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    I said in my first post in this thread that there isn´t any kind of problem with chkdsk since the first alpha version of version 8.
    For those that want to know more, please read here:

    http://support.kaspersky.com/faq/?qid=208279501
     
  11. Macstorm

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    Well said, Baldrick :thumb:
     
  12. larryb52

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    I have no idea who that is but I'm not that, I'd like to believe but I'll wait...I'm glad you like it, how long did the initial scan take?
     
  13. zfactor

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    nice looks like kis 2009 is pulling people away from even the most loved av's around here.. this release IS REALLY that GOOD!!!! i will not be looking back to avira as i said many times i would.. glad to see many others using it as well..

    i have 0 chkdsk issues at all... and i feel comfortable with what they are saying..
     
  14. trjam

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    Larry it was a joke my friend. Intial scan? Faster then Aviras.;)
     
  15. 031

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    Kaspersky faster than avira !
    maybe you are joking again ..........
     
  16. BlueZannetti

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    Just a few comments with respect to KAV/Object ID's/iSwift/chkdsk....
    • They probably don't need to push the purchase of a license from the first day of the trial. I'd say the last two weeks would be a decent time to start down the path to close the sale.
    • I've used KL products - among others - for a number of years. The current suite looks to be an extremely strong product worth consideration by any user from novice to advanced. For the average user, a default installation and go seems to be nearly perfect. I did notice a relatively slow boot for a short period following installation, but this quickly evolved to a quick start (apparently after some initial housekeeping). If you're multitasking on a slower machine (I used a 2.8 GHz P4/1 GB RAM) some annoying short delays/stalls were evident - an example would be performing a task during the initial launch of an executable - some of this would subside with time and probably with some fine tuning on the configuration.
    • I've noted it previously, but it's probably worth mentioning again, from the perspective of pure logic, if the chkdsk problem were a generic issue, there would be a growing groundswell of occurrences over time. This is not observed. To me, the inevitable conclusion is that whatever issue exists is not generic in nature. That doesn't mean that reported problems are not real, it simply implies that infrequently seen specific events, sets of events, or preexisting states are necessary for problems to emerge.
    • iSwift uses file object identifiers. Note - deselecting the iSwift option really doesn't seem to prevent their creation (I guess unchecking means that they are created but not used....). I have noticed a much more considered approach to their creation. Keep in mind that I base my comments on the KL product I use - KAV WKS 6.0 vs. KIS 2009 TR. In the 6.0 version, any file access or system scan resulted in creation of file object identifiers. Do a system scan and basically every file would have them. At least in my quick examination, a non-KAV file open seems required for creation of a file object identifier. Simply scanning the file does not yield creation of object identifiers. Further, if the file is tracked by other means (say an executable), an object identifier is not created. Opening a file not accounted by other means (e.g. a text file), will yield creation of a file object identifier In other words, the creation of these objects now appears rather spartan, which would be more in line with MS recommendations.
    That's it - just a few comments. The main punchline - I'd recommend KAV/KIS 2009 without reservations to anyone on the market for an AV or suite.

    Blue
     
  17. DonKid

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    Hi Blue.

    Thanks for your opinion.
    Stop by again at KL forum.

    Kind Regards.
     
  18. JasSolo

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    Jeff, are you sure about that? You're not just being carried away by your new playmate? :D My experience is that KIS/KAV 2009 is VERY fast, compared to old versions, but not as fast as NOD32. And since Avira is faster than NOD32.....well, that's how it is on my rig.:)


    Cheers
     
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  19. Edwin024

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    for what it's worth: I did a chkdsk on my drives in Vista Ultimate 64 and they performed fine. No problem at all.
     
  20. Edwin024

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    It did a first full scan of my drives in less than 20 minutes. I thought it was about 17. Pretty fast in my opinion. The startup of Vista is also totally done in less than a minute. ESET SS did it in 1.05 and Avira in little under one minute too. And I do think that KIS gives more than Avira Premium Security or ESS.

    For the info: I have bought licenses for all three proggies.
     
  21. TJP

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    Good to read yourself & a couple of other posters have zero chkdsk issues.

    FWIW, I agree with BlueZannetti that the chkdsk issue was blown up way out of proportion. But, as is often quoted, ymmv :)

    Cheers.
     
  22. trjam

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    anyone that knows me, will tell you I am a honest man. Bit quirky but honest.

    With Avira setttings all checked and the same for Kaspersky 2009, scanning time was quicker, not by much but Kaspersky was quicker. Of course I then set to scan new and changed files and this whole issue is moot. Good post Blue, I thought you would lke this suite. There is nothing else that can be said. Well maybe not to forget this special deal while it lasts. Kaspersky 2009 ;)
     
  23. zfactor

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    yes this is from my experience with it faster than avira on initial scanning as well as scans later also...
     
  24. 3x0gR13N

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    Hi BlueZannetti,
    I just wanted to point out the possible reason and explanation for that slow start-up. :) Take a look here, under "Restart computer" check-box:
    rest.jpg
     
  25. egghead

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    Contrary. I gravitate more and more to the Doctor ;)

    I'm running Kaspersky for >5 years now and I think highly of the program and the company, but for for my taste it's getting more bloated with every new version. I'm not sure when time comes I'm going to renew my license.

    I want a lean and mean machine :eek: and I have found it. :D
     
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