SafeSpace.. your thoughts

Don't get me wrong. I welcome any and all constructive feedback. I just need to understand the reasoning behind feature suggestions to make sure that we are solving a problem, and that it is relevant to the cause.


Best regards,

Kris.

 

Hi Kris! Any new version in plans?

Were you able to reproduce and iron out some opera problems, hangs in SafeSpace, if any?

 

I posted the same question about a new release yesterday over at their forum. The response I received was they are working on it but no definite date for release.

I've temporarily switched over to SafeSpace from Sandboxie due mainly to the exploit thread and am quite happy with its performance...opens up my browser (Firefox) really fast. Very impressed.

 

SafeSpace is good but that should not be the reason IMO.

 

Aigle,
The exploit thread has me slightly concerned (and the key word is "slightly"). I would expect I'm not the only Sandboxie user presently feeling this way. Besides this has given me an excuse to try SafeSpace again.

Later...

 

That´s strange, I can´t believe I´ve missed this, perhaps something went wrong with the installation or something. So you´re saying that there should be two SS context menu entries and it works exactly the same as SBIE? Can you post a screenshot please, TIA.

 

Hi all & Safespace

For the record on Win XPSP2 using Safespace + CPF & Defence+ & Avast Home

Opera takes 18 seconds to boot up

Firefox takes 17 seconds to boot up

Using Sandboxie

Opera = 4 secs

Firefox = 14 secs

Using Geswall

Opera = 3secs

Firefox = 12 secs

So Safespace is very slow on booting up browsers.

Page loading is also significantly slower than the other products.

BUT Safespace has an excellent set of features.

The slowness may be the killer for me unless the developers can speed it up?

Terry

 

The slowness was worse for me. SafeSpace actually made my whole system crawl and putting a box around everything is a feature I do not need.

 

How did u measure tyhe times? I remember such measurements done by me with a stop warch in the past and I did post the results at that time.

But I measured in two ways:

- Time of loading for first browser launch after booting the PC
- Time of loading for browser launch after reapeating few browser launches( allowing windows to prefetch it and thence making the time shorter)

 

The slowdowns were not the first point for me, becauce they are not to strong.
But on my machine SS seems to be incompatible with:
- Mamutu
- Threatfire
- CBOC
because the LauncherService from SS had an write error at shutdown.
I hope in the future Versions this will be better, because I like SS.

 

Hi Aigle

To answer your questions

1) My timings were NOT after bootup of computer

2) I took 4 stopwatch readings for each piece of software ( thus allowing prefetching) then averaged the times

To be fair there was not much difference between the average and the high and low for each software.

What is clear to me is that Safespace in concept is a fantastic piece of software. incorcorporating LUAs antikeylogger and sandboxing and is fairly easily configured.

Where it falls down is the need for .NET framework (this I understand is to allow a snazzy GUI) the performance slowdown relative to its competitors is dramatic.

At first I thought Artificial Dynamics had achieved the Holy Grail, but now I remain frustrated and disappointed that even with SafeSpace. if you want a well crafted piece of Software there is a penalty to pay in sluggish performance.

I await the arrival of the EQSecure sandbox to see how that performs since I am still looking for the holy grail.

ps as an aside the Sandboxie camp are still in denial about the "Delete Volume" test. They have convinced themselves there is no problem. So dont expect any changes soon.

Terry

 

SafeSpace seems to get sluggish as time goes by. I ran it for 3 weeks straight and my computers performance continued to go down. And yes, I purged quite often.

As far as Sandboxie and Delete Volume goes, there is good reason to think it isnt valid.

 

Interesting. I have had the same feeling with Returnil ( but not DeepFreeze or Shadow Protect). Hopefully SafeSpace and Sandboxie will mature with time. I know that on faster modern machines lags are not so noticeable but alll the same I think they could become a little more invisible.

 

Tsuk took a week off,so we have to wait until he's back !

this is a weakness with the one man/one owner product.

 

what really bugged me about safespace is that when i open "my computer" (not the pc,the place where u can see the hdd,dvd drives e.t.c) i get a delay of about 20-30 sec for it to open..thats really annoying since i got 5 hdd and i need to manage files real often.

 

I have SafeSpace and Avira Premium Security Suite running on Vista Ultimate 32 bit: 4GB{3GB} of memory and AMD X2 +4800, without noticeable slowdowns. No more than any other Web/HTTP scanner module out there that cause slower than normal web browsing. I'm quite impressed with SafeSpace's performance.

It really comes down to what your machine specs are.. So you can't make a blanket statement that SS is slow... It's slow for your specs.

 

I've to admit that I'm slightly surprise by other's comment about SS performance, since I didn't experience any noticable slow down when I tried it myself ; granted, it was only for a fortnight test, but then I installed it on two modest machines : an Athlon 1900 with 512mo, and a (now deceased) 1600 with 256mo (and a resident AV).

 

i got core duo at 3,2ghz and 3gb ram..thats not low specs at all..still the only slowdown i ever get with SS is the part i talked about before..light as feather to the rest parts..