AVG 8

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by ankupan, Feb 7, 2008.

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  1. Firecat

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    So the engine is multithreaded to the point that quad-core CPUs benefit too? Sure seems like the guys at Intel gave Grisoft the latest CPUs to develop on....:D

    What do you mean "not been scanned in depth by 7.5"?

    I haven't yet seen the emulator in action, but I also admit not having a decent test set or even peanuts to test that emulator :)

    AVG, however, lacks a behaviour blocker mechanism. This is a feature more and more AV products are adopting and it is useful as well. Maybe Grisoft should consider it.

    I take it this means AVG 8.0 is optimized for Intel Core 2 Duo and Core 2 Quad processors? :D

    What I didn't like is the fact that the price for AVG Internet Security rose from $69.95 for 2 years, 1 user to $79.95 (USD prices). Also the renewal discount dropped from 50% to 40%. And since now AVG 8 + Firewall provides me with all the features I require, AVG 8.0 Internet Security is becoming a redundant product for me. I am wondering if I should save some money by degrading my license to AVG+FW, if this is even possible.
     
  2. gery

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    what about AVIRA? does anyone have any experience? Thanks
     
  3. kodl

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    :D No, even I wish they did :D Simply the new engine was designed as multi-threaded from the very beginning and therefore makes use of multi-core processors in general.
    AVG 7.5 did not support CHM as an archive type in on-demand scan, i.e. it did not unpack CHM contents to scan for malicious code within CHM. As CHM is being used for some malware distribution, the support has been added. But there are many more archive formats supported and especially runtime compression support has been extended significantly (also because of the emulator)

    This is definitely something that we are looking into but as such, these methods can not yet compete with signature scanning (with heuristics, generic detection, sandboxing etc.). It has way higher false positive rate and detects bad stuff only after the system is infected. But there are some behavior-based techniques used in the emulator (so inspecting behavior of the malware that is being emulated) and some more techniques will be added in the future, too. But nothing like PrevX and similar - we still do not see these techniques as mature enough to base our detection and user protection on them.
     
  4. kodl

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    Hmm, running two different AV engines on the system is really NOT recommended. And since AVG 8.0 is significantly different from 7.5, the fact that it used to work together with CA does not mean that it will work equally with 8.0. All AV companies strictly recommend not to run two engines in parallel.
    Anyway, I would still like to get to the bottom and find the reason why it is taking so long. Could you possibly let me know (maybe PM?) what file types are being scanned primarily and how did you invoke the scan (Scan whole computer vs Scan selected files/folders)? Did you chose to scan infectable files only or all files? And do you have 'Fast', 'Automatic' or 'Slow' scan active (the slider in the main window). Slow scanning will take really long if you do other things on the computer but should not slow down the system as a whole.
    Would really appreciate if you could get back to me and give me the above info so that we can find out what the culprit might be. Thanks
     
  5. Eagle Creek

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    This thread is about AVG only. Please consider asking your question in a different thread.
     
  6. kenr62

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    I am not running both concurrently, I removed CA completely B4 installing AVG - my experience with CA is from about a week ago.

    Scan is of all files on the computer (set at automatic "speed", including three external hard drives. Speed on CA was at the default level & was also on all files including the same 3 external HDs.

     
  7. Firecat

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    @kodl: Given that you swiftly avoided my comments about the increased prices for AVG, I am inclined to think you do not quite work in the marketing department. Technical Manager or Development Team? :D
     
  8. kodl

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    :D good guess indeed. So no marketing and sales-related questions on me, please :D
     
  9. Cerxes

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    kodl, you should have a colorcoded membername so it´s clear to everyone that you have a connection to Grisoft and therefore are biased.

    Next, Grisoft should also change its availability for customer support from "24/7" to "12/5" since they are not available as advertised, that is, if they don´t defines the FAQ at their website or the e-mail autoreply as been their "24/7" support.

    /C.
     
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  10. Jadda

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    Edit: Yes, he should have had a colored membername. First, I did not know kodl was connected to AVG Technologies, before he said so. But then again, it's up to him/her.
     
  11. kodl

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    Sorry, I thought that I made it clear in number of my posts. And since there is no support forum for AVG here on Wilders (Wilders policy) I have not registered as an official AVG person here because of this thread. Sorry for confusion then.
    If moderators suggest that I should make my nick coloured, I will - but then, since AVG is really not supported here, I am not sure if it is that useful.

    As always with the release of a new version, techsupport is quite busy with all kinds of questions (technical and licensing, all different stuff). I was just checking and the techsup is now finishing questions that arrived on the 8th. So there is some lag these days, and I am sorry about that - still I believe that it is not as bad. But of course, opinions vary ;)
     
  12. C.S.J

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    this forum is biased!
    technically there is one, ewido is here and most AVG threads are in there and get resolved in there.
     
  13. SimonC

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    I submitted data last weekend and haven't heard a thing since then regarding AVG 8 not working on 2 Vista systems I have. It's a good job these were freebie licenses otherwise I'd be asking for a refund had I purchased AVG 8.
     
  14. Diver

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    Kodl might be "biased" but he has lots of good information.

    Let me summarize the last 300 or so posts. AVG 8 has lots of new features and technology, but exhibits bugs on a number of systems, mostly related to the link scanner running slow.

    IMO, AVG will be able to address these bugs and get another build out the door soon. If you have followed AVG it has been their practice to release updated builds regularly.
     
  15. kodl

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    Discussed with the Wilders moderators and this is, unfortunately, not an option.
     
  16. C.S.J

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    this forum is biased!
    whether its an option or not, the general public will post in there (and do post in there) AVG issues and questions.
     
  17. ShaneR34

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    Could I just simply get clarification for that? Looking through the program, a user would believe that statement to be false. From the Program:

    "LinkScanner works with IE and FireFox, and consists for two features, AVG Active Surf-Shield and...."

    From reading that, I would think Surf-Shield does NOT work with other browsers...

    Thanks :)
     
  18. kodl

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    LinkScanner technology consists of two features - Active Surf-Shield and Search Shield. Search Shield protects you only your searches in IE and FF and that only on Google, MSN and Yahoo. On the other hand, Active Surf-Shield is integrated on a lower level and (together with the WebShield) monitors and analyzes all Web traffic. That means, that it does not matter if you use IE, FF or any other Web browser (so even RSS readers are protected....) - the Surf-Shield monitors all traffic.
     
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    Overnight scan has failed again at 13+ hours in, this time set at fast speed. Once again locked up at 100% CPU usage with nothing else running. Third night in a row. AVG 8 has yet to complete a single scan on my system. Still no response from AVG tech support despite numerous requests for help over three days.
     
  20. Firecat

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    Interestingly, I had an issue with AVG 8's firewall service eating up lots and lots of CPU time. Reinstalled AVG and the issues have disappeared miraculously. :doubt:
     
  21. ShaneR34

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    Thanks for that, Kodi. I wasn't doubting you, but the documentation was a little unclear (as is my knowledge, obviously). :)
     
  22. larryb52

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    that's nice , why is it so slow?, the beta looked good the release runs like a beta?, & when you cut down the link scanner from the toolbar why does it put a red mark on the icon in the systray?, I didn't cut down regular scanning just the link scanner, FWIW they need to look at what went wrong as is this is unusable FWIW I run vista & yes I installed the fix...
     
  23. Wordward

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    I have to also ask why LinkScanner and WebShield slows down my browsing? I don't currently have either installed in the Suite, but I shouldn't have to do this should I? I'm not complaining as I like AVG 8.0 and it it is running great with my current set up. However, it would be nice to use all the Components that come with it without any slowdowns. I'm on Windows XP and I first noticed the slowdowns without any other program running.
     
  24. Firecat

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    Running XP here, and with reinstallation, the slowdowns on Firefox have improved to a significant instant, everything is just so much smoother than it used to be. I am still wondering how this sudden change has transpired.....
     
  25. larryb52

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    the basis of the product is one of course that would make anyone want to run it but in it's current state I can't see using it. The mystifying thing is how did the beta RC go from a nice program to what it ended up being?, what changed?
     
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