AVG version 8 package Installs the yahoo toolbar

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  1. Smokey

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  2. Thug21

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    Me and AVG products go back many, many years, but this time I am both surprised and disappointed with Grisoft. Maybe I'm having a memory lapse but I don't think I saw any toolbar in the beta's, etc. :cautious:

    Yeah, it's only a toolbar, but why should they include it?? Why it's it NOT explicitly labeled as Yahoo! but rather some seemingly essential security feature for the webguard?

    Didn't security companies used to help rid us of unwanted BHO's? And do we need that Yahoo! waste of space in our browser?

    I guess we should be happy at least it isn't the famous ASK toolbar but still...:cautious:

    And no, I do NOT want a trusted security product I payed for to try and set my default search provider for me!
     
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  3. RejZoR

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    I don't understand whats with everyone and with their stupid toolbars.
    If i'd want one, i'd find it myself and install it. But i belive NO ONE wants these stupid toolbars. :rolleyes: So stop bundling them gee...

    Daemon tools, Nero, AVG etc, i'm really waiting for this junk to be bundled with icons...
     
  4. C.S.J

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    this forum is biased!
    whether its an advertisment or not, the choice is in the installation whether you want it or not, so the choice is yours. You need to understand that some people will like and want the toolbar.

    yes, i am comparing it to parental control, eg. i never want parental control, yet some suites dont even have an option to not install it, so users are forced to add 50+ ram usage and a massive drag on their internet connection, the toolbar uses zero resources and a choice to not even see/use/install it,

    in simple terms, stop bitching

    it is what it is. ;)
     
  5. Firebytes

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    Aww, we can't state the things we dislike about programs on here anymore because they are what they are? Dang!:eek:
     
  6. robinb

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    it is real interesting about this toolbar because in the beta there was no toolbar anything upon installation and we beta tested the full enterprise suite. This must have been a last minute thing to put this on. Maybe they were waiting for approval from Yahoo.

    If we had gotten to test it I would bet we all would have voted against it.
    I also feel there should have been a box prior to the one with the message for the toolbar giving you a better choice whether to install it or not.
    I am betting most people will not even know it is there or when seeing it checked (it is checked by default) will not realize to uncheck it. The only way to get rid of it after the install would be to reinstall over, do a add/repair and do a custom install and then wait for that screen and uncheck it.

    robin
     
  7. Nuke

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    I preferred not to have the toolbar. It just seems to clutter things up and I will never use it!
     
  8. midway40

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    Norton also gives you the option of installing this toolbar at the beginning of the installation. But it is not the same toolbar pictured on the site. It is just a regular Yahoo toolbar with no Symantec branding on it. Talk about false advertising, lol.

    At least AVG's toolbar has some security elements included.
     
  9. innerpeace

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    And some people like and paid for a security program and that's what they should get. Nothing more.

    Ummm, you paid for a security application that included a parental control feature. Did you also pay for the Yahoo toolbar? Think about who's getting paid here...

    Folks are just voicing their opinions, I hope that's ok. Most users at Wilder's keep clean computers and only install what we need. I had a chance to have a look at a typical users computer not too long ago. I can honestly say, I don't think they need or could use another toolbar.

    This is all about money. Perhaps they can give a discount IF someone installs the toolbar version of AVG. I really don't see that happening though ;)
     
  10. LoneWolf

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    Bitching.........bitching...........you wanna hear bitching, hold on, let me go get the wife. :rolleyes: :D
     
  11. DVD+R

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    Ok lets make this clear :cautious: If you do not check the install toobar box, It wont be installed. If you doubt this, check your registry editor for any signs of Yahoo Toolbar, But you wont find any! :shifty:
     
  12. Thug21

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    No reason for it in the first place. :ninja:
    I don't want Yahoo payin' AVG...
     
  13. C.S.J

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    this forum is biased!
    exactly! ;)
     
  14. C.S.J

    C.S.J Massive Poster

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    actually, you pay for a licence that includes those features but newer versions can include other things.

    it is also your choice to upgrade, and also your choice whether to install the toolbar or not during installation.


    payment subscription, it is for the licence/signature updates and support.
     
  15. stapp

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    I don't know that I would agree with that sentence. All I want is to be able to continue paying for this great little piece of software that causes me zero hassles.

    Instead I am told it will end.

    I have a firewall.

    I have an av.

    All I want is to keep avg antispy 7.5.

    I have a choice?
     
  16. innerpeace

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    I'm aware that it's a choice, so isn't carefully reading the EULA. I'm just thinking of all the folks who click ok,ok,ok while installing software. I also think that one should be able to click ok repeatably when installing "trusted security software".

    I'm in the mindset that if we allow a toolbar to be installed with a security suite then what will they attempt next?

    innerpeace
     
  17. avg_fan

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    Okay, so I found installing AVG Internet Security 8.0 using the default settings also installs the AVG toolbar. But then the AVG toolbar can be easily uninstalled if I decide it's not wanted. So no real issue.

    If I go the custom install route I get to choose if I want the AVG toolbar. If I choose not to install it, it isn't installed. That's as it should be.

    I guess it's a "Yahoo" toolbar in that Yahoo is the search engine in the toolbar. But the AVG toolbar actually gives me quick access to AVG settings and security information, especially the LinkScanner Surf-Shield and Search-Shield settings.

    In fact the AVG toolbar actually gives me access to some LinkScanner settings that I can't access via the Advanced Settings options in AVG itself. (I can't see where the Ratings options can be set within AVG itself. Or have I missed something?)

    So I'll leave the AVG toolbar on. No doubt the AVG toolbar will become more feature rich in subsequent updates.
     
  18. Biscuit

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    That's the last nail in the coffin for AVG from my point of view. Installing toolbars is disgusting spyware-type behaviour.
     
  19. NonSuch

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    It certainly should become "more feature rich," considering that AVG receives payment for putting it on your system... I can believe they would want to make it as enticing as possible,,, If you're going to catch fish, you need to put "bait" on your hook. :rolleyes:
     
  20. BuzzStone

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    I totally agree with you C.S.J. Be careful all of you 'cause the FBI, CIA, IRS and ATF are closely monitoring your activities, not to mention Microsoft and Mozilla. You are doomed, lol.
     
  21. rdsok

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    I'm sorry but this and similar posts trying to state the same are either the biggest load of baloney that I've ever read or just posted by the completely ignorant.

    Yes, its is true that some spyware install toolbars... but not all toolbars are spyware related. Yes its true that some BHO's are installed by spyware... but again not all BHO's are installed by spyware as a matter of fact many very useful normal programs install them.

    As a matter of fact, I know of a lot of registry cleaners that are spyware related ... If the logic used in the above about toolbars were to be used, then suddenly all registry cleaners would now be classified as such.

    I certainly can understand why users may not want to add a toolbar but to use such illogical statements as this to try and validate these users objections to them is simply ludicrous.

    If you don't want the toolbar... don't install it. After all its optional unlike what you would actually see in a real spyware related toolbar.
     
  22. NonSuch

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    The toolbar is presented as though it is a needed or highly desirable option. It is not properly disclosed that it is a Yahoo search bar and that part of its purpose is to generate additional profits for the vendor. Without proper disclosure, the consumer cannot make an informed choice.

    Many people will not object to freeware offering a search bar; however, it is another story entirely when one has purchased a product and then they find that a search toolbar has been foisted upon them, without their informed consent, in order that the vendor may reap additional profits.

    As a longtime computer consultant, technician, and Microsoft MVP in the area of Consumer Security, I can assure you that the concerns expressed here are most assuredly not "baloney." It is quite possible that you are just failing to grasp the gravity of the situation, or perhaps the concerns expressed may strike a nerve due to your own interests.
     
  23. mfenech

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    Couldn't have expressed it better myself. Thank you.
     
  24. Dark Shadow

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    trying it out now,no problem with security tool bar it clearly ask if want to install it is checked by default. simply uncheck box no tool bar any where.norton 2008 has this as well.not a big deal if one reads before clicking away.
     
  25. Thug21

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    IMO, one shouldn't have to worry about "reading before clicking" with paid security software, though. :)
    It's simply not a welcome trend to me.
     
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