I Can See Underbelly Of The Net With SANDBOXIE!!

True Peter but if you only download trusted stuff from trusted sites such as Nvidia drivers then you dont need Sandboxie. Sandboxie cannot tell you that something is a virus unless you scan it first. I have never had any viruses or spyware in over 5 years and I download things everyday. I use NOD32 to scan everything.

 

I think this is a case for tough love. Tell her that if she does the above again it will be up to her to fix it. Maybe if she has to stare at the screen with no clue of what to do and no computer for a few days, she will be careful. Of course I don't know where you'll be eating dinner.

 

Or do what I did with my wife/boss.
Smile and tell her you don't know as much about this stuff as you thought you did and she should not rely on you to fix it because it may never work again!
Then duck.
Hugger

 

Actually most issues nowadays have little to do with downloads users do... It's the drive by download via XSS and IFrame injectors that are used to modify browsers and use the browsers built in interpreter that are the high risks... Sandboxie allows you to recover nicely from those in the advent you get hit... Besides if it happens more than likely you would not eve know about it in many cases...

 

Wow... I should try that one... (Great way to save on Viagra!)

 

Sandboxie is not for downloaders, because when you put things outside the sandbox you're at your own mercy. Sandboxie is the right tool to protect against drive-by downloads which may happen on casual browsing (even on trusted sites)

 

Well honestly speaking that has never happened at all to me and I surf EVERYTHING. I tried Sandboxie for a week and since I download ateast 5 things a day, recovering everything I downloaded was gettting old. I download WindowBlind skins,Wallpapers,Nvidia drivers. I never download some program from some site I have never been to. I also never just click,click,click. If you are infected how can Sandboxie tell you that? It cant but all you do is empty the box correct? Everyone just seems to me to have gone overboard with protection. Sandboxie,DefenseWall,Safespace. Its all too much for me and seems like paranoia. Ok maybe Sandboxie might save by butt one day but how would I know that if it never gets outside the sandbox.

 

Why would you want to know if you were "infected" in a surfing session with SBIE?
The point of sandboxes is browse to your heart's content, then delete the virtual container and done. You begin clean and you finish clean.

 

I already do surf till my hearts content..............and never 1 infection.

 

What browser do you use Dieselman?

 

Firefox with adblock and no script. I have Comodo 3.0 and NOD32 3.0. And yes I surf porn.

 

I am 52, I surf coupons for Depends.

 

Great, but

NoScript requires a fair involvement from the user. And Comodo 3? You'll have to deal with HIPS and firewalls pop-ups.
The concept behind sandboxes is simplicity = strong protection, no pop-ups, almost zero configuration, no FPs.

 

I don't get any pop ups unless I am installing something. If you merely put the firewall and D+ in training mode for a week the switch it back you will be fine. Comodo just sits there like NOD32 till it finds something.

 

A site I visit everyday was bit yesterday. http://www.askwoody.com/newscomments.php?newsid=1949 It's fixed now, but this serves as an example that even your normal daily sites can't be 100% trusted. I'm glad to have Sandboxie on board.

 

Hello Innerpeace,

I make noise about it on my site, I blab about it in wilders.. and boy do I get flack for it... (Apparently I'm a fear mongering for doing it. )

Just goes to show, the risks are real, and it's really not the "Obvious" site that will bite most users. The problem is most are so poorly secured that it would take a really poorly written hack for them to ever notice anything taking place...

 

I don't see how SandboxIE can prevent my wife from getting infected if she opens an email attachment with a virus!

 

For the "Obvious" sites, I turn on Returnil's protection . Seriously though, as much as I like Sandboxie, it's just as important to keep everything up to date. The malware would need a vulnerability of some kind to do it's damage. That's also why I check once or twice a month with Secunia's Software Inspector to make sure my broswer, Java, Flash, media players etc. are all up to date.

 

Hi Aaron, If you start a program within Sandboxie, anything that happens during that session should stay in the sandbox. If she however decides to recover the attachment to your real computer and open or runs it, then it's game over if the attachment is infected. That is why it's important to scan everything you download and then recover from the sandbox. If the file is under 10MB, you could also upload it to VirusTotal or Jotti to be scanned by multiple scanners. I hope this makes sense.

 

I agree. Then I guess the only thing to do is Sandbox your entire pc. Not. I was only Sandboxing my IE and FF.

 

Thanks innerpeace, and that does make very good sense to me, but we are talking about my wife here!

As I responded to Chuck, any and all security programs that I install on her laptop will have to work transparently (without the need for her intervention) or it simply will not get done!

 

I see Sandboxie as an insurance policy. Maybe I'll never need it to rescue me, but I know it gives me a much better chance of avoiding infiltration of malware if I come in contact with it while surfing. Of course I'll never give up in the foreseeable future my firewall and HIPS as two of my security workhorses, but Sandboxie has relegated my revered NOD32 to on-demand scanning duty only, except for email downloads; it now plays second-fiddle to Sandboxie. It wasn't long ago I balked at the thought of using a sandbox to surf, but when you just sit back and think in simplest terms what it does to protect you while surfing, it is rather phenomenal to realize it completely isolates your surfing activity from your physical drive. Your machine for all intents and purposes is basically untouchable from malicious activity that could occur while surfing or opening attachments!

I suppose someday someone will figure out how to defeat the sandbox, but for now it remains imo virtually unparalleled.

 

A thought, and I'm not sure whether this would work or not. What about Faronics AE, or some other anti executable?

Once it's in place, it's very transparent - until you try to open something, or something tries to open itself, that isn't trusted. Don't know if it would be applicable in Aaron Here's case.