Eset servers being blocked PeerGuardian 2's P2P

Discussion in 'ESET NOD32 Antivirus' started by Escalader, Feb 20, 2008.

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  1. NSG001

    NSG001 Registered Member

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    Good move.
    Your debate was with bluetack and not the team at PG2 hence our frustration/s.
    Glad the silliness is over.
    Thanks
     
  2. nodyforever

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    Calm and relax everything will resolve .... I hope it is because the positive ..... but this will still give some headache and will sink more Eset's reputation as a company.


    I hope that the moderators listen to the users and let the pride aside.


    As referenced the PG2 has 10 million users ,,,,, be with them when nod32 and without fault any program it is withdrawn?


    Users dissatisfied is halfway walking to the failure of a company.


    Think twice ..... reflect what really where are the meter, then why not "going with the hand by the head" if the Eset from even having the best products.


    It will be necessary to create a poll to know our views?



    Cheers:argh:
     
  3. BlueIce

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    I would like to thank you for reconsidering the detection of PeerGuardian 2. We at PhoenixLabs were not aware of this problem until Escalader posted about it over on our forum and then later on the many of users saying that NOD32 was wanting to uninstall PG2. We would have treated the matter the same as we usually do when some blocklist blocks IPs for programs and games that our users use. We direct them to either allow list or tell them how to unblock the IPs b/c PG2 is capable of doing both. But as said thank you again for the reconsideration of the detection.

    BlueIce
    PhoenixLabs Moderator
     
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    that's the way to make friend like Eset:thumb:
     
  5. BlueIce

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    I do however want to add that I feel that this whole situation about PG2 could have been handled a lot better than it was.
     
  6. bluesprite

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    Well, the way ESET people were treated by the M0nk dude wasn't quite mature either. Indeed, it seemed more appropriate for a banstick-happy IRC op teenager to behave like that.
     
  7. Escalader

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    Re: Eset servers being blocked BlueTack P2P Lists

    Hello Marcos:

    Well done! It takes a big spirit to reverse tracks on PG 2 you have done that!:thumb:

    I started this thread as a news item and it kind of led to way more than anybody probably thought at the outset.

    The matter is closed now from my point of view.

    I feel that the issue of the blocked ESET server entries in BlueTack's p2p list is OT for this thread which deals with PG 2 and that this is a business matter between Eset and BlueTack to be resolved (or not) away from this thread anyway.

    Sadly, :'( I report today that the electronic war between Eset and BlueTack continues.

    Now all the CZ servers I listed are now in Bluetack p2P list plus a few additional UK based ip's 89.202.157.131 to 139 showed up on my setup.

    In order to update I did 2 things in PG 2 that will work:

    1) In PG 2 Disable only the p2p list, leaving the others active and trigger an immediate up date for Eset.

    2) Enable the p2p list but as a few of the ip's show in the history block list right click on the entries of your choice and select allow permanently, I have never been able to confirm that temporary allows work.

    Both these methods worked, and I'm now at signature db 2898 on the 23rd feb.

    To speed this all up I'm going to allow the whole set of ranges for Eset and not play this game anymore.
     
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  8. bluesprite

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    Re: Eset servers being blocked BlueTack P2P Lists

    If HTTP isn't blocked, ESET updates successfully. I have no use of blocking HTTP so this really isn't an issue. Besides, like was mentioned already, if you block HTTP, there are quite a few sites that will be blocked.
     
  9. Escalader

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    Re: Eset servers being blocked BlueTack P2P Lists

    Hi bluesprite:

    Yes you are correct. But my approach (as usual) is different.

    Looking through that p2p list, I have no reason to connect in or out with 99.9% of them. For me, on my PC, with my security phiolsophy they stay blocked until and unless I have a need to connect to them.

    I respect all others who have a different approach, but that is mine.

    Take it easy.


    PS I have allowed the Eset servers as an exception in pg2 and my updates work fine!
     
  10. bluesprite

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    Re: Eset servers being blocked BlueTack P2P Lists

    That is true, but once in a while I stumble upon sites that are blocked and I eventually got tired of constantly adding them to exclusions, so I unblocked HTTP. What I need PG2 for is to enforce the blocklist for my P2P application and if I add exclusions, that purpose is compromised.

    But like you say, everyone has different needs and different approach. :)
     
  11. Escalader

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    I received some requests as to how to allow the Eset servers ias a PG 2 users. What follows is the procedure that worked for my set up, no promises it will work for anybody else of course.

    This process of steps worked for me.

    >Right click on PG2 in task bar bottom rhs your screen
    >Left click on List Manager
    >Click on p2p line, on mine it is 1 of 5 lists
    >Click on Open List
    >Scroll to each of 4 ranges
    89.202.149.32 to... 149.63
    89.202.157.88 to... 157.95
    89.202.157.128 to... 128.159
    90.183.101.000 to... 101.31
    >right click on each range it will high lite it
    > select allow permanently
    > range will automatically get added to your personal permanent allow list.

    In that list you can edit it by shrinking or expanding the ranges but why bother.

    I can't answer any why questions just ensure your Nod32 is set on updates automatic after you have allowed Eset ranges
     
  12. Escalader

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    Re: Eset servers being blocked BlueTack P2P Lists

    Hi:

    Yes, interesting.

    What you could do is only enable the whole p2p list while doing your p2p application.

    Would that work for you?
     
  13. bluesprite

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    Re: Eset servers being blocked BlueTack P2P Lists

    Hi,

    Not really, I'm happy with PG2 working automatically in the background without need of intervention; I couldn't be bothered to turn specific lists on and off every time I start and stop a P2P program. Thanks for your suggestion though.
     
  14. Moore

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    Thank you Eset for reconsidering PG2 as a non threat.

    I am not sure I would agree that this was handled very professionally though, the first attempt at contacting us was more like a threat/intimidation and the second attempt harassment.

    I think you'll find that in most IRC channels around the world that when you repeatedy harass any operator they are most likely going to kick you out of their channel.

    I agree though that this thread is not the best place to discuss the situation any further, so I won't say any more.
     
  15. Escalader

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    Re: Eset servers being blocked BlueTack P2P Lists

    Okay, I suppose it would depend on the % of time users spend on the p2p applications but if you are happy well good!:thumb:
     
  16. Escalader

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    As the owner of this thread,

    I feel that the issue of the blocked ESET server entries in BlueTack's p2p list is OT for this thread which deals with PG 2 and that this is a business matter between Eset and BlueTack to be resolved (or not) away from this thread anyway.

    It is turning now more into a PG 2 support thread so I request that the moderator please close this one off.

    For Pg 2 questions I don't mind trying to help but let that be in a different forum probably privacy. The other obvious place is over on the PG2 forum where the PG 2 experts live, I'm just a user like everybody else.
     
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  17. ronjor

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    We'll put a lid on this thread for the time being as the situation seems resolved.
     
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