Zone alarm anti virus version 7

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  1. fax

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    Successfull or not successfull is a matter of taste and personal preferences.
    We have been discussing this endless times.

    For me ZASS provide a very strong firewall and a very good AV.
    Latest version has reached good stabilty (apart from the above example :D ) and has all the essential elements you may want from a security suite.

    You may like or you may not... its a matter of personal taste combined with the essential requirements of running smooth on your setup.

    Cheers,
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  2. fax

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    No I havent, sorry if you have...

    If ZA would cause delays of 20 minutes to all machines installed on do you think they will be still in business?? Noooo... not the slightest chance.

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  3. computer geek

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    So, you are disregarding my post and completely ignoring me by saying "it has reached good stability apart from the example above?" Well, i know this to be the case, i have used ZISS for 187 days and seen in many many reviews and from personal experience that ZISS is heavy and NOT stable. Maybe this av just goes with your computer, but by only saying your opinion does not mean that there are lots more opinions out there.
    Edit: so maybe not 20 mins for all, try going to amazon and typing in zonealarm and go to google and type in zonealarm review.
     
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  4. fax

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    Sorry but I have been using ZA for years and helping often at the ZA forum and I can surely say to you that 20 minutes booting is NOT normal and NOT a common issue in ZA.

    If you beleive it fine, if you do not beleive, fine as well. :D

    Cheers,
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  5. computer geek

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    Disagree completely there, personal taste is EVERYTHING in security, everybody has their own preferences. 2 components do NOT make a good suite. What would be of avira suite with rubbish heuristics and good firewall and good spamfilter? Reputation would fall.
     
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  6. computer geek

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    Ermm, please read my edit. :thumb:
     
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  8. fax

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    No, you are simply misquoting what I try to say to you... and taking it personally. Please relax and stop this.. its not very useful.

    Peace and long life :D

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    Agree...
     
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  10. computer geek

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    No no no, i wasn't taking it personally, and i'm sorry if i was a bit too "rough" (humblest apologies:D ) but I don't think I am misquating what you are saying, in the next quote, please state all what you are trying to say and i will reply to it, and see if we can have an agreement. :D
     
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  11. TaInTeD_SnIpEr

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    I've been using ZASS a little over half a year. The startup takes 40 seconds to 1 minute, never over that threshold. This product has been extremely stable for me; it has never crashed my computer once, the only time it ever freezes up is when I'm executing a big installer (5.0gb+).

    Resource usage has been fair on my machine, but there's always room for improvement.

    This suite has kept me extremely content with my "Security" and, as far as I know, has never let me down in terms of Infection/Disinfection.

    I do not choose the "Layered Security" approach, simply because it does not fit my preferences; in terms of "Security" this "Internet Security Suite" has been the only one I've been truly happy/content with.
     
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  12. computer geek

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    please verify if we are talking about ZISS or ZASS.
     
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  13. fax

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    I think its the same ZISS (ZoneAlarm Internet Security Suite)
    ZASS (ZoneAlarm Security Suite).

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  14. TaInTeD_SnIpEr

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    The way I see these as:
    ZASS: ZoneAlarm Security Suite
    ZAAV: ZoneAlarm Anti-Virus
    ZAAS: ZoneAlarm Anti-Spyware
    Etcetera.

    So, ZoneAlarm Security Suite is what my last post is pertaining to.
     
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    In my personal experience, I did experience a few resource usage problems during bootup with ZA; but nothing that I would call "showstopping". I feel ZA is a well-done product, however, it just feels a little rough around the edges. And the fact that the KAV engine in ZA is getting old, with version 7 and 8 both bringing good improvements to the scan engine and detection rate which ZA might not get, makes me think twice before using it....:doubt:
     
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  16. computer geek

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    Ahh, couldn't describe it better +2 except rhe showstopping bit.
     
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  17. fax

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    Do you have any comparison of on demand detection of KAV 6 and detection of KAV 7? Last time I found a comparison it was in a non reputable site (virus.gr) and the difference was minimal 0.1%.

    So if the difference is so small it does not really justify a switch (yet)
    Probably with version 8 we will see a switch unless the KAV SDK is updated.

    EDIT: another example is comparing e-scan (KAV engine I think) and with KAV 7: 0.93%. Still really a negligable
    difference (IMO).

    Cheers,
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  18. computer geek

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    Still, there is that small chance and it indicates why products need to be upgraded, and so far, as far as im concerned, zonealarm have yet no intention of releasing the 2008 version with kis 7 engine, it has been some time since 7 was released.
    Edit, bit off the topic but seconds ago-ZoneAlarm Forcefield 1.0.217.0
     
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  19. fax

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    Yes :D , installed and running well... it seems they corrected the odd behaviour I had on slow tab opening in VISTA....

    Cheers,
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    Does anyone else know what the differences are between the engine ZAAV is using and the current KAV?

    Seems like quite normal that some people will have positive experiences with a particular software and others haven't.

    My original point is that $30 USD is cheap if it is the full KAV engine with heuristics and same firewall as in ZA Pro. F-secure and GData is a lot more expensive.

    Are there any issues that make this a 'so so' deal? e.g. KAV engine is actually outdated, has bad heuristics, firewall is watered down etc.
     
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  21. fax

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    Not sure I understand the question, ZA Pro firewall is propietary and all the features in it (OS ZA firewall, spyware blocking, spyware engine, etc..) are not in KAV.

    The engine used in ZA although using a mix of kernel drivers from version KAV 7 (e.g. klif.sys) has comparable detection as of KAV 6. The difference of 'on demand' detection between ZA and KAV 7 seems minimal to me and it is due to the new heuristics in KAV 7.

    Was this the question?

    Cheers,
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    My bad. You answered a good part of the question already though :D Thanks.

    My question is, does ZAAV use the full KAV engine (i.e. same detection rates) and the full firewall you would get in ZA Pro?. If it does, then it seems very cheap as you get two very good components at only 30USD.
     
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    Lets answer the easy question... yes, ZAAV have the full ZA firewall you find in ZAPRO (minus the own ZA antispyware/antispy blocking)

    For what concerns, KAV. With ZAAV you will get the same scanning detection of KAV 6 (virus, spyware and riskware) but not all the AV options you find in KAV.

    If you have tried already KAV and you know how it works you can try ZAAV and test it yourself.
    Its always the best to really have a feeling about a product. All ZA products have a 15 days trial.

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  24. C.S.J

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    this forum is biased!
    is this because after 30 days, your system is unusable? :)

    only joking, but its not for me

    glad your enjoying it though ;)
     
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  25. fax

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    LOL, I think for most of the users here after 15 days the tool is already tooooo OLD :D

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