Is Outpost fading away

Discussion in 'other firewalls' started by starfish_001, Jan 6, 2008.

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  1. minoka

    minoka Registered Member

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    ...and I disagree: OFP 2008 has been working for me quite reliably.
    windowsxp sp2
     
  2. starfish_001

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    Perhaps a currnet leader but maybe not for long ..... support has always been less than good for me. I raise requests but there is not process ro resolve them.

    I'. just left waiting ..... but Comodo is good in part not so good in other parts
     
  3. starfish_001

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    Great .... for many this is not the case. I have issues on 2 of my machines rendering a family lic useless
     
  4. hany3

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    i agree with u
    comodo is not an optimal solution and still has some defects
     
  5. Kerodo

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    This was my complaint with Outpost also, just too many little bugs and issues that remained unfixed forever. I bought it back around v2.5 or 2.7 I think, then used 3.0 for a while, but eventually dropped it. I don't think I would ever bother trying anything after 3.x myself, but perhaps it's worth a fresh look, although I rather doubt it. Seems to be just one more app that was once good, but has since degenerated..
     
  6. starfish_001

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    Dumped Comodo after a rather consist bug that caused resources not to be extracted from a dll. Back to outpost 4 for now .....
     
  7. Kerodo

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    That's the problem.... works for some, and not for others... so it's not consistent enough to be "reliable"....
     
  8. ProSecurity

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    This is your opinion.

    There are tens of thousands, if not HUNDREDS of thousands, of other users who would disagree with this statement.
     
  9. hany3

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    there's no optimal and complete firewall in the world that's why every some time each vendor release a new version
    by the way i'm currently use comodo , sure it has very little bugs as comared to other buggy firewalls
    but it has some defects like

    1-the "pending files problem"
    2-annoying defense++ either u have this extensive hips or u have not , there's no average solution "like in comodo version 2 "just component control
    3-comodo is very very easily killable by the task manager if u installed it without the defense ++ or if the defense is inactivated

    i know its out of topic but just want to explain that there's no completely optimal firewall out there

    but generally comodo the best firewall as compared to other current firewalls
     
  10. Ngwana

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    Talking about fading away?

    Initially anyone could modify all Outpost firewall presets and configure rules of their own liking. Then Agnitum cried foul that illegal modifications were been made to the software and presets could not be modified. Outpost firewall versions like that offended some.

    Secondly Agnitum added Anti-spyware integration, leading to ‘bloating’. This offended more people even though the AS module could be disabled.
    And now Agnitum seems to be trying to deal with zero-day threats and this is where more people jump ship. The firewall applications are becoming too complex.

    I am not sure this is fading; the competition is offering nothing special too. I somewhat applaud the efforts from Agnitum. Time will tell. :D
     
  11. Perman

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    Hi,

    Outpost FW, from technical pt of view, may have merits to stay around, but..

    From client affinity pt of view, it may not posses that glamour to attract new users, in other words, people do not see it as a MUST have application, while they can get hands on good quality rivals such as Comodo, OA for free, yes, absolutely free.

    IMO, paid ware firewalls are squeezed out of existence gradually by these late coming freewares, and meantime, there is not much new development in firewall core filed, except increasing its waist line-heavier and heavier until being buried by its weight.

    Firewall developers(paid ware) need to put their heads together, to find a new path and an innovative approach in order to regain their glory days.

    Take care.
     
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    I've got OPF 2008 running on two desktops and two laptops. Today my main workstation wouldn't connect to Internet. It was OPF acting up. Uninstalled / re-installed yady yada... I'd like to have a FW on this box, currently running w/o one. Anyone know where I can get ver 3.51 or something less current than OPF 2008?

    ...screamer
     
  14. Kerodo

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    Got It, Thanks Kerodo!
     
  16. Carver

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    I am also trying Comodo firewall Pro 3, I am getting tired of Outpost blocking programs. :(
     
  17. hany3

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    outpost 3.5 is the least buggy version of outpost

    and outpost 4.0.1025 still works fine for considerable number of users

    but outpost 2008 works fine with only few users plus some beta testers

    although i know some beta testers bored from the many bugs in the recent version and shifted to other products "although they are beta testers who are supposed to be used to bugs"
    but i may excuse them as they told me that the bugs were untolerable for them

    cheers
     
  18. wat0114

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    hany,

    I'm betting you spend more time bashing Outpost in the various foums than you do on your medical studies. You've made your point abundantly clear ages ago about how "buggy" you feel the firewall is. We get it!
     
  19. BuzzStone

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    Hello hany3. Comodo 3 cannot be killed via Task Manager (there are posts here at Wilder's regarding that issue). The listing may dissappear from TM, but the FW still works. Just check it out yourself.
     
  20. jm0307

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    Greetings,

    From my perspective as a security novice, Outpost has served me quite well over the years. I have used it since version 2.0, and initially partly because of the high accolades it has received in this forum. All versions which I ran since were stable with the exception of version 4.1007.591, but, for me, these problems have been resolved with 4.1025.700, with which I have remained.

    As far as the accusation of bloatware is concerned, again speaking as a novice, it appears to me that one can easily disable the spyware plug-in, as well as most other plug-ins - which I have. When they introduced their spyware plug-in, it appeared to my ignorant self as a clever idea, as the consumer choice between strong suites was not as rich as it is now. It was a step towards a mini suite, and I can't blame Agnitum for trying to jump onto this lucrative bandwagon. Agnitum also increasingly included basic HIPS functions during OP's development, but these too can easily be disabled, or they can serve well as a rudimentary HIPS for beginners. Has not the ever increasing leak test debate put tremendous pressures on many vendors to create ever more bloated firewalls and blur the boundaries between HIPS and traffic filtering?

    Configured to one's liking, and with the excellent guide written by Paranoid2000, OP can be turned into a very light and effective traffic filter with a great log viewer - and, forgive me if am ignorant, but isn't this what a firewall is supposed to do?

    On the few occasions on which I had to contact Agnitum's support, they have always replied within 24 hours and followed up on further queries. On the downside, their replies appeared quite formulaic, but the support of their friendly help forum has always remedied this weakness.

    I cannot comment on 2008, as I don't want change my current set up - but, after all, from what I have gathered it was a complete rewrite and is it not premature to dismiss it as a complete failure so early in its existence? Furthermore, it has proven its merit even to leak test afficionados according to Matousec's tests. 2008 aside, surely the last build of version 4 remains a decent and supported firewall for many end users, particularly those who, for now, experience instability.

    This novice is not willing to write Agnitum off yet...

    Best wishes,

    jm0307
     
  21. Rainwalker

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    :eek: :eek: :mad: :'( I was unaware of this.......seems to becoming more and more the modi operandi for security software.
     
  22. Perman

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    Hi,

    The fatal error of their own making; they could have adopted the policy of " We have told you so, read our EULA(?) first". Many others do have this safety switch.
     
  23. hany3

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    thanks coz u follow and remember all my posts in various forums , it's a great honour
    but i'm free to write what i want
    if u r annoyed from my posts about outpost , i advice u just not to read them
    but to write or not , and what to write ,, is not ur business , sorry

    by the way i have many posts about some problems in comodo , jetico and online armor

    so why u r angry from crtitcizing agnitum and outpost by name ?
    r u working there?
     
  24. Zombini

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    Agnitum NEVER was a leader in security products. They were just a spark that tried to capitalize on Norton's failures but has faded quickly. Now that Norton has gotten their act together, a lot of small players will start to fade. Agnitum wont be the last.
     
  25. Rainwalker

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    Norton has gotten their act together? I suppose it's a matter of definition.
     
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