ESET NOD32 is AV Comparatives winner 2007

How come you never dared to present them
AGAINST the ones of av-comparatives.org?

What and Whom were you afraid of?
Maybe you hoped that kaspersky would be the product of 2007 on av-comparatives.org
Now, that it wasn't you ''remembered'' mentioning about other results.

That's so objective! Well done!
Do you want from us to believe someone
who one time says this and the other time
changes his views, makes a U turn in his mind, and
says something completely different?

Were you among the ones who attacked me for
mentioning about other AV-tests? (Apart from the av-comparatives.org)
Back then, it was wrong. I was wrong.

Now it is OK just because, you said so...
Well, that's a hell of democracy...

 

Can you stay on topic please.

 

@ Miyagi

i think hes talking about the AVC results, (aint really sure) so i guess, for now.. he is on topic, lets see where it goes eh, should be fun!

you have not been on here a very long time, you think i change my AV all the time, and that i dont mention other testers, your wrong on both counts.

again, you should do a search and read past posts, i certainly tell things how they are, and had many disagreements with many people, im certainly not afraid to speak my mind.

again, you keep mentioning kaspersky, not really sure why.
is it because i think Kaspersky is #1 for detection at the moment?

i have my reasons why i think that, but before you start saying "avc didnt give kaspersky #1", it doesnt really matter to me, its a personal 'tried and tested' method, if i went off AVC's results, i certainly would not be a drweb user.

what is it, that ive changed my mind on?

im glad you finally understand

i think you should read AVCs reports aswell, they might be a help to you, for your 'quest'

 

Observing a good amount of PCs protected by NOD32 (even the cracked version) I can assure that NOD32 protects very well. I see clean or almost clean systems with tons of files in the Quarantine.

Agreed ESET hasn't changed its price structure and most of its competitors have really cheap prices.

 

i know lucas, i aint bashing nod here, just giving my view

i would have no problem using nod32 myself, i just dont think its as great as the avc report leads us to believe, for the reasons i mentioned.

 

nod32s advanced heuristics are the best available,
CSJ

1) Since you suddenly discovered some other av-tests,
which ones (apart from av-comparatives.org)
show that nod32 has the BEST heuristics?

2) Are you specifically talking about IDS/Behavior Blockers or not?

 

1. none, but do i need a test to judge, NO.
2. nope, just heuristics.

why are you sooo hooked on tests, cant you judge for yourself?

 

In Greece, where I was for vacation last summer, NOD32 2.7 did NOT
stop a new spyware (i.e. a dialer) and people received increased phone bills.
For these people, NOD32 2.7 did NOT protect their PC very well.
However, Kaspersky 6.0 did protect them a lot better!
Maybe, this was out of pure lack. Who knows...

P.S. : I am NO Kaspersky fan and/or dealer!

 

I'd say that NOD's proactive detection rate is a little lower than the reported at AV-C and NOD's overall detection rate is a little lower than Avira's, Kaspersky's and BitDefender's, but not by much.

 

1) No, I haven't your expertise, despite my studies and my age!
I prefer to learn from AV experts, like you!
Besides, in this forum,
I learned that you have to respect the AV test results and especially,
the ones of the av-comparatives.org
IF you want to stay ALIVE!
2) I use mostly sandboxes, ISR apart from HW & SW FWs.
For my security setup, the AD/AS scanners are just to prove that "nothing was found".
Do some ErikAlbert reading and you will understand me...
Hopefully and eventually...

 

well, IMO this is the worst downside from this av maker

ALL of my infected samples that i've submitted to them in the past were olympically ignored for weeks!!!
And i'm not speaking about negligible harmless files but of real threats (mostly trojans) already detected by other av's.

sorry nod, not in a thousand years

 

I've been an ESET customer for over 4 years now. I'm happy to see it win the AV Comparatives 2007 Best Antivirus Award.

Although I did once have a trojan sneak through NOD32, I still think that one trojan in 4 years is pretty good. That trojan did get removed by NOD32 a few days later when the signatures updated and I did another full scan.

I wish NOD32 was cheaper, but that's my only gripe.

Good job ESET!

 

In my experience, there's no need to bother and waste your time. Eset will completely ignore your submissions, over and over again. Eset has done more than enough to tell me that customer submissions are not required, and as far as I'm concerned their own virus lab can find their own samples from now on.

 

ESET is not perfect and I've been a fairly harsh critic of their buggy new programs lately. I upgraded back to v2.7 weeks ago. It has never let me down. YMMV, but every AV misses something sometime.

Unless you have the expertise to test and decide for yourself, the AV you regard as the best generally depends on which testers you believe are the most competent and qualified to make that decision for you.

1) I have no faith at all in VirusP "VX" tests, shady "Top10" and similar money magnet tests, and most of the the crap published in computer magazines.

2) I have very little faith in av-test.org tests.

3) I have complete faith in Virus Bulletin tests and av-comparatives.org tests.

I welcome comments from anyone who can argue rationally why I should change those views. Fanbois and anyone who wants to tell me NOD32 is crap because it missed a virus on his computer that some other AV found, don't bother.

 

Why should anyone bother, when you cannot provide any rational justification for your views in the first place?

 

What is/are your reason(s)?

 

"Researchers at Virus Bulletin have released the results of the latest VB100 computer security test, highlighting failures at a number of leading security vendors.

Products from Sophos, Trend Micro and Kaspersky were among those that failed to protect fully against a collection of outdated viruses.

The December edition of the VB100 test subjected security software to 100 Windows 2000 viruses collected from labs and websites.

"It was a shock and a concern to see such a poor performance from so many products in this latest round of testing," said John Hawes, a technical consultant at Virus Bulletin.

"It is particularly disappointing to see so many major products missing significant real-world threats."

In order to pass the test, vendors needed to identify 100 malware samples as well as avoid reporting false positives on clean samples.

Kaspersky failed the test by missing one virus from the list,"

 

I just heard that according to a german magazine (priting results from av-test.org) which will come out next week, ESET got with 68% proactive detection the highest score. Just for information to the one who said to CSJ that ESET scores high in retrospective tests only at avc.

 

Who said it?

My samples was added.

 

Moreover,
Let's not forget that
Many av-test.org results have 'walked together' with the ones released by the avc.
Why would ESET/NOD32 be an exception to that?

P.S.: I love your inside-INFO: You are so priviledged to know some AV test results
one week before the readers see them...

 

i still dont understand what you keep trying to say.

and obviously you dont know who certain people are.

 

Dude, what exception are you talking about?

AV Comparatives winner for 2007 is NOD32.

 

It is a winner virtually all the time, which continues to irritate the hell out of many true-believers (of other AVs) in this forum.

Mahalo

Bunkhouse Buck in Kona

 

here a summary/preview in english:
http://www.heise-security.co.uk/news/100900

 

ta

"Only F-Secure was able to perform convincingly in the behavioural blocking test"

impressive indeed.