We can safely conclude FD-ISR is over?

ErikAlbert wasn't very clear unless you know what company is who. So, this company bought FD-ISR in order to kill it to protect their own software?

Can somebody summarize how FD-ISR went from being highly praised to being gone for all practical purposes?

On edit: Why doesn't Leapfrog just get another distributer or distribute their own stuff like everyone else? I'm so confused.

 

We ALL wish we knew how FD, as we know it, came to an end.

Acadia

 

You know, I still use Drive Image 2002 (the last version from PowerQuest) and it images my system partition in 5 minutes and restores byte-for-byte in 3 minutes flat. I've used it literally hundreds and hundreds of times and it has performed flawlessly. I don't see the purpose of these other programs, except the speed maybe. But my "clean image" is the same as these "snapshots". I'll stay away from these two outfits who obviously have horrible PR/communication skills.

 

@ Genady : it ain't over till it's over :

Good

Although It's now a moot point: you do not have multiple bootable images and multiple archived images of those or any other system set-ups that can be shifted on and off your disc as required.
That was ( still is ) the terrible wonderful beauty of FDISR.
Prior to the end, the only missing functionality was a boot disc.
There is no other utility that provides that useability.

( well...the server version of FDISR...for some indeterminate time to come )

Realistically Leapfrog was always a vendor to big biz for server recovery. The market for FDISR Workstation was always going to be a bit limited, and now Virtualisation is overtaking everything everywhere.
IMO the business model for FDISR Workstation was sadly a bit limited to those who actually appreciated what amazing potential there was.

The same users are prolly now moving to VMs
Free options galore.
BUT: not everything works the way it was meant to in VMs and VMs as test beds are flawed.

Fdisr itself has some flaws for testing: ie does not fully isolate the partition structure, but this is manageable.

As a home user it has extended my 'fun' enormously and given me the option to set-up tailor made bootable images, heh, some of which contain VMs, one of which has WUBI, with even my limited expertise.

Extension limited only to imagination....

My poor old box now 5 yrs old has been sorely tested LOL
New HW otw: more fun to be had.

From the anguished outpourings here and elsewhere from all 50 users of FDISR, , you can see we have lost ( not quiet yet ) a beloved friend.
I have no intention of giving it away just yet.
Regards.

 

Acording to what I've read here, you all wont trust any other system restore program other than FDISR.... Ahem.. get a life!.. Because your talking Bollocks if thats what your saying.

 

What are the other options with same or similar functions. ??
If you know one in release then I for one would be keen to know.

If you are talking Imaging or data back-up: of course FDISR is not only option.

All moot now: those who have it and for whom it works seem to hold it in high regards as a utility it and use well.
For those who dont ; <shrug> life goes on, software comes and goes: the next big thing is round the corner.
You can get the server version but $$

Lbd

 

I would guess that Leapfrog is licensing their technology to HDS.

I have been playing with RollbackRX Pro 8.1 and it truly is an amazing product!

Yep, get a life guys...

 

Perhaps not the most courteous response I've ever seen on Wilders....
Agreed Rollback Rx is a good product and I use it on a test PC, but it has had its stability problems in the past and IMHO doesn't cover as wide a range of uses as FD-ISR.
I think the reason why people here are so upset is not just because FD-ISR effectively has been eviscerated but that there appears to be no reason for this & no explanation from Leapfrog as to why this was deemed necessary.
I don't think you can blame HDS for this entirely.
They have asked for a particular build of FD-ISR based on what they think their corporate market and some home users will use and as a commercial decision it is entirely up to them what they choose to purchase/ licence from Leapfrog.
What is objectionable is the withdrawal of the sale of FD-ISR Workstation from the other vendors so that nobody can obtain the 'full' version of the program.
I don't think any of us know the 'deal' that lead to this (if there was one). Was it HDS that requested this or a decision by Leapfrog?
Whichever way, it was unnecessary & hugely disappointing to us as consumers, which is why I think there has been such an angry reaction.
It certainly does seem to smack of manipulating the market.
Whilst that is any company's commercial privilege to do this if they make or license a product, it certainly leaves every body involved in this rather murky business smelling of something rather less than roses....

 

Those who have FD-ISR and like it can carry on using it for quite some time. As it is frequently described as perfect or near perfect there is no problem with upgrades which will no longer happen.

Those who don't already have FD-ISR will need to find other solutions.
Rather than having multiple snapshots they may find that multiple images of c: will do just as well. On a modern machine I find that I can restore C: in less than 2 minutes. Freezing images with DeepFreeze, Returnil, or others means that all "snapshots" can be frozen if required. I have found that the speed of reboot can be slightly faster here than the FD-ISR freeze and it may be an advantage to be able to freeze a number of C: rather than just one.

Anyway the main point is if you don't already have the Old FD-ISR , with a little imagination you can at worst get by . You may even find other solutions better in your own circumstances ? I have a copy of the real thing but can find no real use for it - other programs work just fine. On a good machine it is possible to make an image of c: in about 40 seconds - load a test program - play with it copy that image to an external to play with later and then restore
the old image in a couple of minutes. what exactly am I missing ?

 

Using Acronis 10 and a core 2 duo I can image C: ( OS and Programs only) in less than 1 minute. I never verify as it always works.

Using one drive for C: and another for Data makes the process much faster.

Anyway this is not a "mine's bigger than yours" competition but rather I feel that it is important for those who are lucky enough to have and use FD-ISR not to give a no hope impression to those who don't have FD-ISR. Far better, in my view, to concentrate on helping them understand that with a little thought they can find satisfactory alternatives.

 

Viewing from your imaging time (1 min.) i suppose you have a very small C.

 

4.41 GB not exactly small but slim enough. Just ran one now as a test 55 sec for the image + time to click on program settings - total time 1 minute 20 seconds. Recovery does take longer but restoring a drive is much faster then restoring to a partition.

 

Leapfrog only develops software, HDS develops and sells software. Leapfrog chose HDS as a distributor for FD-ISR Workstation (limited market, high support costs) and FD-ISR Server (apparently it has good market potential)
Guessing from some posts here and info at Leapfrog's site, a new (superior?) application is being developed, so HDS was left with the "legacy" of FD-ISR. Each version of FD-ISR took a different path:
- FD-ISR Workstation was renamed and maimed to FD-ISR Rescue, which is a very poor product and cannot compete with the other boot-to-restore solutions (Returnil, Deep Freeze, PowerShadow, etc)
- FD-ISR Server was renamed to RollBack Rx Server and didn't loose features in the process.

 

At school, I did the same thing sometimes. My friend did my homework and I wrote my name under it.

 

curious to know what Leap Frog is cooking in their digital kitchen.

 

LOL
At school, sometimes I had to do the homework for some buddies

Well, it has to be vastly superior/different to FD-ISR to justify its premature death. Still, Leapfrog could have reduced the price of FD-ISR to make room for its shiny new application.

 

I have at least 5 years to wait. As far I remember FDISR started in 2002 or is about 5 years old. Since then quite a few ISR-softwares appeared and that will be the same in the next 5 years.
I hope that it is Leapfrog, who will come up with something new. FDISR was already years ahead and still not beaten by any other younger ISR-software.

 

Well, the support thing is the missing piece in my puzzle If Leapfrog is going to introduce a new workstation product, it should be priced at the level of FD-ISR ($ 70) and FD-ISR should be priced at a lower level with reduced/minimal/paid support. This way, Leapfrog may milk FD-ISR until it's obsolete.
This is done by the CPU manufacturers. Before any announcement of new products, they cut prices to make room for the new SKUs at the high-end (see the introduction of Core 2 Duo and the drastic price cuts on Pentium 4/D)
Since these forums are frequented mainly by customers of the workstation build, Leapfrog's Todd wouldn't talk about a "sucessor" of FD-ISR.
Just my wild guess