Conflicting Programs

I bought my pc for just everyday use.

as of now I have trimmed down the list to pretty much what you suggest, right now I'm using Avira Antivir in real time along with Threatfire, Online Armor 2 free, sandboxie, and an Nat Router.

I still have all the on-demand spyware scanners I listed though so I still have to trim that down.

Thank you for your suggestions.

I have gotten rid of Comodo Firewall since my first post, right now I'm using Online Armor 2 free

I'll use the online scanners for scanning as the detection from online scanners are probably better than the U3 Avast (depending on the online scanner)

and you suggest SAS and AVG Anti-Spyware? I need to trim down my on-demand anti-spyware scanners but are unsure which ones to keep and which ones to uninstall.

Thanks for your suggestions.

 

U have a very nice setup now. Good and rapid progress. U don,t need anything more than this in real time.

As far as on-demand and others is concerned, u can trim them down or even remove altogether. It actually depends upon ur likings! I have seen that people have a lot of on-demand scanners in the beginning, gradually they are tired of maintaining, updating, facing their bugs and scanning with all these tools. They rarely catch anything on the pC of a security concious person. At the end all these on-deamnd tools go one by one or just remain dormant, except for testing.

 

Hi Gizzy,

I agree with aigle. Most of us start out with several on-demand scanners and find them not that useful.
I think that SAS is probably the better one for protection, and I have not read of slowdowns from others. Considering that a lifetime license is a steal, and that Nick's support is truly outstanding SAS would be my choice.

I think that OA is probably the better FW, but have not tried either. If I ever go back to a stand alone AV I will try OA first.

Regards,
Jerry

 

That looks really good . All the above softwares can be had for free too .

For on demand, SuperAntiSpyware, AVG anti-spyware and A-squared are more than plenty. I think you'll find that if you run your browser or other programs within Sandboxie, the on-demand scanners won't find anything. They will be useful in scanning new programs or whatever you may decide to download.

 

Add Retunril.

 

Here is another nice setup for free:

-Antivir Classic (free)
-SSM (free)
-COMODO Firewall (free)
-COMODO BOClean (free)
-GesWall (free)

Would also recommend for free, if you wish to venture to the wildside/no man's land of the web to get the following:

- ReturnIL (free)
- Dual boot with any flavor of Linux (Ubuntu, PCLinux, etc.)

Can provide similar or better protection as the one mentioned by Gizzy.

 

I already have returnil but I don't use it all the time I mostly just use it to install new programs or if I go surfing to any sites I think are dangerous, but I wasn't using it actively so I didn't mention it in the post you quoted me on

Exactly

Since I've been running firefox in sandboxie and have learned more about security and have become more security conscious the scans I've been doing haven't picked anything up lately so they are becoming less useful but I will keep a few (not all) for scanning new programs or for the occasional scan every once in awhile.

 

Gizzy,

You'll find that keeping-it-simple is really a pleasure in the long run. My post was in jest, but not altogether untrue.

I wouldn't dump all the on-demand scanners though.

On my normal work & play boxes I have a relatively simple Security setup: FW, AV & HIPS. Of course I have an ISR app also, on all the boxes. FD-ISR is my choice, plus an imaging app, ShadowProtect Desktop V3. All behind a NAT Router w/ SPI turned on.

My NAS Box is a different story: I have the usual FW, AV & HIPS, plus I run Spyware Terminator realtime w/o HIPS & BoClean. I also keep & use A2. When I D/L a movie, app, or anything actually, I first scan w/ AV. Then it goes to A2 and finally Spyware Terminator. If it passes these, I attempt to open it. If anything goes wrong... All I have to do is go back to a clean FD-ISR SnapShot.

Keep in mind that playing w/ security apps is the best way to learn about them, Hands-On.

...screamer

 

Screamer I appreciate that you did write "Relatively simple" but then went on to
say that you use (1) FW (2) AV (3) HIPS (4) FD-ISR (5) Shadow Protect and (6)
Nat Router. Relatively complex might well be just as appropriate ?

My Relatively simple is (1) Netgear Router (2) Returnil ( 3) Acronis

"All behind a Nat Router with SPI turned on" With my Netgear I can't see how to turn on SPI - it seems that it just works that way. Do you actually have to do something to get SPI to work ?

 

hehehe, yeah, now that I look at it, it looks kinda funny to preface it w/ "relatively simple". You should only know what I useta run, hahahaha!
Then again, FD-ISR & SP aren't really security software are they. Well... in any case, yeah, under Advanced Settings on my D-Link DIR 655 there's a Firewall setting for SPI.

...screamer

 

Well just go to http://wiki.castlecops.com/Lists_of_Freeware_Security_Software , choose one from each category (the ones marked with thumbs up) and try the thousands of combinations...

E.g

Instead of -Antivir Classic (free) - AVAST,AVG

Instead of SSM (free) - DSA, EQSecure , Winpooch , online armor free , noeavaguard etc

Instead of COMODO Firewall (free) - Jetico, Kerio, Netvedas etc.

Instead of COMODO BOClean (free) - Spyware terminator, Threatfire etc

Instead of GesWall (free) - Sandboxie, SafeSpace etc.

Then you should consider add Comodo's buffer overflow protection guard and Returnil obviously.

Plus lots of on demand staff, since they don't cause conflicts. I would load up on the best antirootkits and antivirus as backup if you primary defenses fail.

 

He has choosen a setup already and seems satisfied. There can be so many other options but giving a long/ short list will not help him in either way. The page u rteferred to him might make him more confused.

I will let him continue with what he has ATM unless he gets some issues.

 

I am trying to keep it simple I have to my ram keeps going too high I have 512mb which I thought was alot until I started with all the programs, but my main thing I have to start doing is snapshots and imaging I have an imaging program already I just need another hard drive, and for FD-ISR whats the link? whenever I search it and get to the site theres no link to buy it or download it or anything.

thanks for the suggestions I am learning a lot by using these security applications.

 

Gizzy, here's a link to FD-ISR. I'd grab it while you can since Horizon Data Systems is going to remove some features in the next few days. Even if you D/L a trial now and activate / buy later. This is the wisest move. DO NOT Update this version when it comes out. It will only cripple FD-ISR.

http://www.horizondatasys.com/253715.ihtml

Here's a link to Bootback: same app, different name:You can't buy it here any longer, but if you use it, the HDS license will work:

http://www.softwarepursuits.com/bootback/download.asp

hth,

...screamer

Edit: FD-ISR is not the easiest app to lean how to use. You have to start thinking in the third dimension. After you D/L and install, just make a Secondary SnapShot. That's all you'll need to get going. In case of disaster you have your Secondary SnapShot. Then you can read the FD-ISR threads and tailor it to the way you want it to work when you do get a 2nd HDD.

 

Read this before you buy.

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=190047

 

Really? I think someone running the things he does must be quite expert...