NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM usag

Discussion in 'ESET Smart Security v3 Beta Forum' started by iNsuRRecTioN, Sep 30, 2007.

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  1. trjam

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    I have to add something, sp that all Nod license holders will realize. There are bugs, yes with the current product. What you fail to realize is that Esets entire approach is going through a current and future metamorphism. It is painstaking now for the consumer, and the vendor, but it wont be the final release that awes all of you. It will be what the future allows the new product to slowly, but surely, evolve into. I know this and it is painstaking. I love to pop jabs at Marcos, but I keep, and will keep an active license for their product, because I do know where they are headed. It is a hard road but it will be one that is imperative for AV vendors to follow to survive.

    Some stated in the last few months that tradtional AV products would soon be outdated and replaced by virtual software. Guess again. There is no truely virtual enviroment because it is the basic human being, that is determining the level of virtualness. Oh , and dont even get me started on restore software. Because that is pure crap. The average family that has their work documents along with their kids PC games, that are saved, want no part of having to restore their PC to the previous logged version, because of some type of malware corrupted their system , just due to the fact that most consumers would and do, find this method, totally unacceptable.What is happening is AVs vendors are preparing to become the one product that will react before and after human intevention.

    So endure the pains for right now, but I have no doubt the AV market will shrink, and your beloved Nod, will be right where it should be. Sharing the top.;)
     
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  2. oldshep

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    Care to enlighten the rest of us as to "where they are headed"?
     
  3. trjam

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    :cautious: A nice open ended question.

    Headed to what it will take to remain, profitable,consistent, reliable and on, and on, and on.;)

    Or another way to put it is, " When a motorcycles gas tank just starts to run empty, it has a petcock to allow you to switch to reserve and, refire.";)
     
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  4. oldshep

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    Oh OK... thanks for that. I thought maybe you were just waxing philosophic after a few cold brews on a Friday evening:D
     
  5. superphysics

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    Yes, they have not tested for leaks. But it is not a hard and fast rule for a good firewall that it must have "zero leaks". Zone Alarm Pro is, and has been for a long time, the professional and expert choice in software firewalling - but it failed to make the top tier in matousec's listing.

    I'm betting Eset makes a firewall without needing to pass the leak tests.

    Firewalls aside (noting that this is a AV thread):
    I agree. The interface is no reason to upgrade, specially an interface that steps one backwards - as I noted in my original post.

    But I note that also that the AV module has become more powerful. I had a virus on my USB flash disk that was preventing me from opening and manually deleting the virus file. NOD32 2.7 was preventing a copyover from flash to hard disk, but was unable to kick the virus. I have since forgotten the exact viral classification, but I do know that NOD32 3.0 was able to not only get accross the virus but actually cleaned it out for me without affecting the innocent files.

    Nope, it is not false.

    1. ESS is NOD32 AV + firewall. It not only makes sense that an AV alone< AV + firewall.
    2. I tried it on an XP machine too (my colleague's). Still, it came up with less than 17MB.
    3. I speak not for my system, but for seven others, all in variant operating environments. It would seem that your system is acting like a fish out of water, not mine. I hardly need to post the screenshots of all of them, now, do I?

    Of course:
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    Fully valid. If one has a problem, one should, and must, complain. That is what beta programs are for.

    Regards, Superphysics
     
  6. ellison64

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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM

    Perhaps the ram usage is higher on w2000 which is what insurrection (i believe?) and i use?.The two AV processes take just under 32 meg (ekrn itself takes 26m),on my 2000 system.However we know that ,its a little buggier on 2000 than XP ,which has been demonstrated by options missing from the gui etc.I am pretty much confident that they will be fixed though.
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  7. Blackcat

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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM

    Unless you are running an older machine which is RAM-Limited, a primary AV taking up to 50-70 MB RAM IMHO, is not a problem IF there is no effect on system performance.

    The RC1 is running very light here on a 2GB box, so the memory usage is irrelevant to me. Very light, and stable which is the norm for Eset.
     
  8. ellison64

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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM

    I have limited memory (392m)though 32 meg is not overly bad ,as i usually have around 150-60 meg ram left with all my apps (10 from system tray) including browser running.I would definitely reconsider my choice of av if it took 50 plus though,unless there were definite benefits to warrant it, and not just a fancy Gui.
    ellison
     
  9. ASpace

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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM

    Generally anybody would do the same
     
  10. Zombini

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    Without fail, every year or so a new kid on the block that was known to be lean and mean, decides that they cannot compete any more with the big guys like Norton etc and they go and add new features and screw it up. First there was ZoneAlarm, then Outpost, now NOD32
     
  11. nodHead

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    I'm starting to see what you mean. I just don't like NOD32 V3. I have lost faith in it. My license ran out on thursday, before I did - I switched the Kaspersky and got 30% discount. I'm out of here. Cya eveyone, good luck with NOD. :(
     
  12. JeremyWW

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    Now come on...I've played with Kaspersky too, and boy have they had problems with Betas, and released products...KAV and KIS are both 'feature rich' (some might say bloated) products, that many have found noticeably slow surfing down.

    How can you lose faith in something which is still Beta? NOD32 RC1 might be a release candidate but it is still unreleased, so many issues will be fixed. It's so close to that point now, that the least I'm going to do is run a trial of the final product before making any decisions. NOD32's track record means V3.0 deserves a fair trial. There's always a risk of disillusionment when testing Beta's, so you have to keep that in mind and accept that Eset are giving you unfinished code to play with...
     
  13. Brian N

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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM

    Honestly I prefer 2.7 too. The new one is much harder to setup, and those huge spaces with nothing in them doesn't help much either. But then again, nobody can expect something perfect to stay perfect forever.
     
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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM


    lol - I wish we could sell it now - you're going to have to wait!!! ;)

    It will be worth the wait - this RC is not final, so expect improvement before launch, which is getting closer all the time.... lol
     
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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM


    why? You are not being forced to upgrade to 3.0 - the 2.7 version will be around for a LONG time - and it will remain supported for the foreseeable future. This is a question I SPECIFICALLY asked at the partner conference we just got back from. There is no requirement AT ALL to upgrade to 3.0 if you want to stay with 2.7 - updates will still be coming out for 2.7 for a very long time!
     
  16. Bunkhouse Buck

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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM

    Congratulations. And as a bonus for each subscriber, KAV alters your file system (without your permission) so that there is a greater probability of CHKDSK errors. What a country!
     
  17. JeremyWW

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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM

    LMAO...yes, when I realised it did that - I asked Kaspersky for a refund (some time ago)...got one as well... :)

    P.S Re-imaged my drive afterwards as well...
     
  18. ellison64

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    Re: NOD32 AV 3.0 RC1: I don't like this version, fewer features, infos, but more RAM

    Well im getting used to v3 now ,though i personally would like the gui to be spruced up with some bigger and better looking icons.It looks too plain at the moment imo.That aside (and the w2000 gui bugs which apparently have been fixed),its performing very well and fast even with all files scanned ,and the http scanner active.Many other avs would slow my pc down a tad with that setup ,but this one doesnt.Overall i think its almost there.....just make that gui a little more attractive with some sort of icon or logo in the large blank areas.
    ellison
     
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    v2.7's GUI is great to me, and I'm very used to it. Although v3.0's seems more geared to be "user-friendly" and more easily adopted to the average user, I don't like it as much.

    Since I use it in our network at work, v3.0's new GUI will be awesome, as the GUI will be better understood by the clients, and I (the administrator) will have less issues to deal with because of it. But the home user in me prefers v2.7's GUI. :doubt:
     
  20. trjam

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    I like 3.0 better then 2.7. If they can ever work the bugs out of the suite so when I reboot it doesnt act like Forest Gump.:blink:
     
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