AV Comparatives - August 2007 report

Re: Congratulations Eset (merged in from other thread)

Q*– According to av-comparitives, nod32 is at number 7
A*– According to the detection tests only, av-comparitives have ranked nod32 at number 7, but on the whole, nod32 is much better. Nod32 scans faster and is lighter on your computer.


Q*– So nod32 scans faster but finds less viruses, is this a haphazard scan? Wouldn’t it be better for nod32 to take a little more time while scanning so that the scan is thorough and it finds all threats?
A*– Nod32 does perform a thorough scan


Q*– But according to the scanning results at av-comparitives, nod32 is at number 7. Does this mean that the other antivirus products are better?
A*– No, not at all, there is no such thing as a better antivirus product, whatever you’re comfortable with, is best for you.


Q*– But on your website, you compare your product with other antivirus products and state that yours is superior, isn’t this a contradiction?
A*– No it’s the truth, why are you taking the av-comparitives results so seriously?


Q*– Because, on the main page of your website, you have the av-comparatives logo with a statement that nod32 is the best antivirus in 2006. Are you saying that the av-comparatives results were significant and noteworthy when nod32 was at the top, but now that nod32 is at number 7, the results aren’t as important?

 

The only anti virus I can fully trust is the one I'm not using...

Just take any fresh virus sample to Virustotal.com on any given day, do this repeatedly, and you will understand why!

 

Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

It's not the makers

IMO you practice safe computing (even into 'Dante's hell'), the same goes for others with similar experiences.
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I think you're just about to change your avatar

Check again the link posted by IBK for the suites (they were tested for its self-protection capability). KIS is #1

I think he meant 'improvement' between same products now (sym. vs. sym.), measured and compared from the february test. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Re: Congratulations Eset (merged in from other thread)

to be exact, all products having A+ in this test are considered 'on the top'. no matter if position 7, 10 or whatever. for being considered as "best" av of the year some more factors/tests are considered.

 

I think it would be interesting to see what Trend and Panda would be doing in this test. Or maybe even the new ESS engine

 

IBK, is it possible to get the exact numbers of the poly testset? Number of infected and detected files?

Strange that some of the AV's that are tested 100% on the polys don't show the same detection rate on our replicated test set.

 

you just need to calculate with 2000 for each.

 

Happy with Kaspersky 99% on the next test hopefully

Don't really care about Norton as they probably have one of the worst removal rates I've seen.

 

Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

Nice work. We use Avira and NOD32 only, and have for three years. They work great on our machines and we have never had any problems with malware.

 

i really doubt this, my main focus will be drweb for some time

maybe they concentrated more on their product than adding the missed samples,

i still expect an improvement on the next test, the retrospective one, in detection i mean, but standard will be the rating still due to fp's, thats my prediction anyway

 

When's the "Test of other Anti-Virus products" for this one coming out

Blame curiosity for this question.

Also will there be a Spyware Terminator with CLAMAV addon scan included? I beg for it!

And what will you use for PCTools? SpywareDoctor + AV Addon? Or will Threatfires scan (If it has one, haven't tried it yet) be included with those 2? Though 3 scans would be complex ><

Always curious for Comodo's results

And Counterspy (Or Counterspy beta?) will be included?

 

Re: Congratulations Eset (merged in from other thread)

IBK said -

But finally only one antivirus product has to be installed. Everyone would like to know which is the best antivirus and the answer has to be based on scientific analysis. Since people are paying money for these products, the answer deserves to be an exact one. So, all the antivirus products are put through common tests and you have a winner. Some antivirus products are faster, some are safer, some are easier to operate etc.
But the primary purpose of an antivirus is to provide safety. So, considering all factors and all tests, which antivirus product provides the highest level of protection?

 

to all questions: no.

 

can someone tell me if avg was suite in test?? saying free version here the number they used? thanks MD

http://filehippo.com/download_avg_antivirus/

 

it was Anti-Malware, which is indeed the Suite.

 

ahah! tx

 

Re: Congratulations Eset (merged in from other thread)

Time you read this thread...

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=182305

I assume the 'best' is measured over the year since the claim was 'best of 2006' and not 'best of the month of August'.

 

Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

Hi Chris,
Will you post when you receive a reply.Or PM me.
Badcompany.

 

Re: Congratulations Eset (merged in from other thread)

Direct answer, please. Direct answer.
You sent me off to read about testing procedures.

Assuming that testing procedures do provide accurate results, then my question becomes relevant and once again I ask*– which antivirus product provides the highest level of protection?

Assuming that testing procedures do not provide accurate results, then it is impossible to know which antivirus product provides the highest level of protection. In this case, all antivirus products should be treated as equal, since it is impossible to prove the superiority of one product over another. How then, does it make sense to pay money for an antivirus product when there are free alternatives available?

 

Well, I will say this as is usually the case I am learning more here then a dozen newsstand mag testing articles.

I too am pleased to see AVG score so well. I knew they would eventually score Advanced+. Looks like lots of AVs are improving. A sad day for malware writers

 

Yes, a lot of companies are improving their products which is good for everyone. Even OneCare has improved though it still has a way to go.

Also notice that in the Feb. comparatives only Eset and Symantec caught all 12 polymorphic viruses. Now we have 6 different AV's catching all of them.

And you are right all of this is bad for the malware writers

 

May also mean more excitement and a bigger challenge for malware writers.. like a cat and mouse game... Tom and Jerry

 

Re: AV Comparatives is Almost Due

I'm not a Norton basher

I've read them. That's why I said that Symantec is improving.
Every AV misses malware. But you can't negate the speed of Kaspersky's viruslab and the heuristics of BD, Antivir and NOD32. I think that everyone here agree on these facts.

I'm pretty sure that malware writers are already trying to bypass behaviour-based detection. They won't give up, there's a lot of money to lose.
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Any idea if the same polymorphic samples used in the Feb. 07 test set were used in the Aug. 07 comparative? If they are in fact the same, then the samples were submitted to the vendors. You then have to wonder why only 6 caught all 12.