another magazine AV group test

I actually remember someone doing exactly this.

 

Come on Macstorm, add a little substance to after the "Ermm"

 

Sorry man, I was just about to add more fuel to the fire
Enough to say I agree with most of comments here

 

I have recently changed from Nod32 to Kis 7.0

All I can say is that kis 7.0 is IMO. much much better.

It has so many nice features that I dont see in Nod32, plus I found that the detection was much better.

And now in 7.0 they have their new heurestic analyser, plus they have the proactive defence modul.

All in all a massive securety suite with a very nice GUI compared to the look of Nod32.

Not trying to start a war here, just telling how glad I am with my change to kis7.0

 

so you actually found this out?

or was you told this?> i.e testing sites

i think the latter

 

i notice their test methode is interesting, they tested the realtime protection, not juest a detections rate. 2nd is they tested the free one against paid ones, and we can see avast free is far behind avira free in realtime. and avira classic without ad/spyware detection is still almost as good as kapaski.

 

no,

because its all bullcrap.

avg free beats most of them, i dont think so.

nod32 soooo low, and also norton near the bottom too.

cmon, get real...... like i said, its bullcrap.

 

What I mean about the detection was that it found things Nod32 missed, also I like the way it can block viruses when you surf the net, instead of first having to deal with a message popup saying it has found this and that it can block it right away so that it dossent have a chance to load into the memory or temp internet files.

Also I like the GUI a lot more than the old clumsy design in Nod.

Some other nice things I like are the anti banner and the possibillity to launch my web browser with parameters so that if a program or something else is trying to load a page it can be blocked.

Plus much more.

I dont have a huge collection of virusses to compare the detection between kav & Nod, but it has already blocked 3-4 virusses for me from the web, and this within just one month. Also when you surf and it finds anything, then when you block it is takes you to a page with a short mesage at the top, displaying what has been blocked/deleted.

 

Well I must say I was also surprised to see AVG score more than Norton and Nod32. Been a long time since I used AVG free edition so I dont know much is has been improved since that. It must have been improved a lot though since then, since it can score so high - because back then when I used it, it was indeed not very good.

 

The fact that it scored higher than other products in this particular test , doesn't mean it has improved or that it is better as a whole than the competition.

 

Very well written , you don't see them . That doesn't mean they don't exist.

In particular - NOD32 can do it , too . In IMON you just need to switch the option to
"Automatically deny download of file" and high the compatibility level and and then if a threat is found , you can only see a message like this


So it can be done if there is a wish and need , instead of coming and bashing. If this was what you wanted you could have asked in the Eset forum

 

I don't completely trust magazine round-ups because I just get the feeling that they are trying to push certain products almost like advertising and they pocket something for doing so. I could be completely off the mark, but I am just suspicious lol
Another consideration is that they only used a limited set of samples, so I just don't see how such a test could be completely accurate.

 

Well I emailed the article writer and got a very good response from him. His name is Darien Graham-Smith.

I initially sent a very short email basically saying "did you even use the product" . So I got a reply and it says yes, what didnt you like about my article. Point by point I emailed what he had written and why I disagreed, he replied again explaining why he had made such points and to be fair and without getting into the actual AV testing he made some solid points which I couldnt disagree with. I think that if he had included the information that he told me then he probably wouldnt have got such a bad response from this community.

 

you cant brush off every test though you can look for a track record. If one continues to rate high in all tests then iy likely is, and if it rates low consistently, then the same. Tests are ok, you just have to look at the whole picture and not zero in on one or two.

 

OFFTOPIC:

haha
trjam changed again?
why f-secure this time?

 

Gee I can see why I changed to KAV 7 Now.

 

when I saw trjam had changed again I rushed to the f-secure site to see whether they had made any announcements.

no, nothing doing.

definitely an opinion-leader of Wilders!

I will be buying avira tomorrow courtesy of trjam being a follower - don't think I'll be following him in changing so often as it's too much of a headache.

Ian

 

I use 2, Avira and F Secure. THey are all good, just like the tests, you have to find the one you feel is right for you and go with it.Now if I was testing I would rank by catagory of all the test combined and it might look something like this.

Top Group-order reflects nothing in each group
Norton
Kaspersky
F Secure
Avira

Middle Group
F Prot
Eset
Dr. Web
Mcafee Virus Scan
Bitdefender
Norman
Panda
Avast-with potential to move up

Bottom
AVG
CA
Sophos
Trend Micro
Microsoft One Care

 

I think there is no need to rush after trjam - just sit tight and in about a week he will be back to Avira or Nod or KIS... and you will both again have the same AV

 

I'm saying nothing .

 

Not as always, sometimes in the past Bit Defender, Nod and AntiVir got the crown in my tests. So don´t expect that Kaspersky has best detection rate, they are always high ranked, but not necessarily nr.1, maybe as security suite, but not always in detection.

I don´t believe AVG has merited such a high rank, in most earlier tests they ranked below midfield.

 

Monday I sent some commercial key loggers to Virus Total. I don't know what each
AV's settings are used at Virus Total but I know the same 8 AV's detected the key loggers. I think there were a couple AV's which used the same scanning engine and def's. What I was curious about is how Norton detected them all.
On a side note, I didn't install them to send separate files, I only sent the setup file to Virus Total. I might go back and resubmit the same versions today to see if they were added yet.
I can also tell you NOD & Mcafee did not detect them. I should have copied the results in case I needed them LOL
It is interesting to do your own testing as System Junkie does, just to see how fast an AV adds new def's
I know these tests make for good debate but I always wonder why people here don't just do their own testing by now?
I know there are still a lot of people out there that only switch AV's when they have trialled a new AV and it found something their old AV didn't and they keep switching over & over & over in an endless loop.
I think by now most of us know Av's can't keep up with maleware and especially against zero day attacks which are becoming much more common.
We all know that if you use your computer for banking without a password manager, and you get an infection your AV don't have def's for right away,
your account info might have been taken already.
Good proactive programs are needed more then ever now.
Does anybody know if they use NOD's proactive defenses at Virus Total?



controler

 

I don't think it's bullshit, I use NOD32 for about 2 years. It never found anything on my primary C partition, nor did the resident module, nor did the on-demand scanner. Last night I used the Kaspersky on-line scanner and it found 6 infected items on my C-drive. I tested them all 6 at http://virusscan.jotti.org/ and they indeed were all 6 infected.

 

It doesnt matter if folks here say all tests are bullshit. Because people read them, people trust in them, people buy based on them. And that my friends is all that really matters.

 

Most of these magazine tests are based on home-user type "suites" anyhow. So much of what GUI turns one tester on and another off seems to play a great deal into how much of this is ranked anyhow.

Personally, I detest most of the home-based suites because of the complete dumbed-down look and feel of most of this crap.