TDS-4 questions part II

Discussion in 'Trojan Defence Suite' started by dallen, Nov 10, 2003.

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  1. Mike_ZZ

    Mike_ZZ Registered Member

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    Thanks!!!!!

    Cheers mate - you too!!
     
  2. phaedrus

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    I`ll be very happy if the exec prot is kept in TDS-4 pro. :)

    Cheers,

    Trev.
     
  3. dallen

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    I've got a dumb question. If execution protection is included in both the Active Guard and the Pro and a user decides to have both could there be any conflicts that could arise from both execution protections trying to run at the same time?

    I'm sure that either that is a dumb question or it's something you smart folks at DCS have already considered/fixed.
     
  4. Pilli

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    Dallen, My gess is that as you install EP from whichever programme then the installer will say that EP is already installed "Do you wish to reinstall" etc.
    Or that the install will be greyed out if it recognises that EP is already running
     
  5. gunnarj

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    Is the following answer to a question from this thread (https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=3316;start=0) still accurate?

    thanks,

    gj

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    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/showthread.php?t=3316;start=0
     
  6. Pilli

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    See Wayne's post above, Wayne has said that "Nothing is set in concrete" as yet

    We do know that there will be Active guard, Scanner & TDS4 Pro. The final parts to be included in TDS4 Pro has not yet been decided.
     
  7. tutankamon

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    Hi all,
    Can we get down to it! TDS4!! yes it should have exec protection, yes, it should be free upgrade, and again, yes, the other parts of the TDS4 suite, should carry a price tag to pay for the developement of these tools, and also the free tools available from Diamond CS.
    I may be a lonely voice out there, but I see good value for money in the TDS4 suite, and associated free tools.
     
  8. Jooske

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    Hi Tut, fortunately all the other tools released recently use new technologies which were needed to concrete before the release of next products like the 4-families.
    So not any time really lost and in the meantime bunches of toys ehh tools to play with and more to come!
     
  9. Mr.Blaze

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    hmmmmmmmmmm tds 3 has had a update in the past to v3. something

    so its not like it dont get updated like you make it sound.

    we werent even supose to have knowledge of tds-4 they just let it leaked cause they were excited about the situation.

    tds 4 is supose to take it to next level and every day we find out something new about tds-4

    if you look closely at tds-4 threads

    and put it all together you have one phat as program comeing up.

    this stuff takes years to make improve and fix bugs

    just like anyhing in life worth haveing

    plus we almost get daily updates for trojans cant beat that
     
  10. CARCHARODON

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    I have an idea for a new packaging scheme.

    TDS 4 - Home :D

    TDS 4 Home should have active guard and the new file scanner but exclude all the extra stuff in TDS4 pro that some of us have no use for. This would be a similar package to what you would get if you went out and purchased most AV programs.. just an idea, but it makes a bunch of sense to me.
     
  11. McDougall

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    I have a question.

    I don't ever bother to check the DiamondCS home page or check these forums. I paid for the package deal a few months ago and am happy just updating and running the software. But, I want TDS-4 when it comes out. Actually, I didn't even put my email address in for the newsletter.

    So... when should I check back? (as in - we know TDS-4 won't be out in the next xx months so you can probably write down on your calendar to check back in madeup-uary. :)

    :p Maybe I should just sign up for the newsletter (duh)

    BTW: Installing Visual Studio .Net on my system (my theory) seems to have killed TDS-3. The first time I tried to run it after installing .Net TDS-3 would hang on the first item of the memory scan when loading and I'd have to reboot my system. No big deal. I completly deleted TDS-3 and reinstalled it from scratch and it works fine again. Just FYI if anyone cares (cause I don't really care enough to make a thread about it).

    Great product.... loving it.
    -A happy silent user
     
  12. dallen

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    I agree with your thoughts McDougall. However, I check the forums because I find value in the information that I find there. Going back to your suggestion. I would be satisfied with knowing a "not going to be released before" date rather than a "going to be released on" date. I think that DCS should try this approach.
     
  13. Jooske

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    Hi all,
    It's most certainly advisable to visit the DCS forums, including the private licensed TDS operators areas. For latest news, education, tips, special tools for those users only or in the first place, discussions and about the future products.
    With all the tools released in the meantime which could have been included in TDS as well as extra modules, although we also can understand why this was not done, in the radius4 engine had been released for public we might have said we are already using tds-6 by now with all those new items, but ok, as all those new goodies are separate programs and tools we are just patiently waiting to see what is next and how it will be called.
    The planning is known for the products by name and probable order of public release, but don't pin developers on a special date as in the past that was done and we have seen the time consuming discussions so better just have the newsletter, visit the forums, and in the meantime enjoy all the wonderful products and protection we have with what there is.
    And most of all: enjoy our computer experience!
     
  14. Wayne - DiamondCS

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    While you patiently wait for TDS4, why not take a look at some of the software projects that have resulted directly from TDS4 research & development. These include:
    OpenPorts - http://www.diamondcs.com.au/openports/
    Port Explorer - http://www.diamondcs.com.au/portexplorer/
    Autostart Viewer - http://www.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=asviewer
    Advanced Process Manipulation - http://www.diamondcs.com.au/index.php?page=apm

    And coming later this week ...
    - Advanced Process Termination (APT - a free utility that offers seven different process termination methods at the click of a button), as well as Suspend/Resume process (un)freeze capabilities.
    - The first full public release of Process Guard, the only program we know of that can secure processes against all 7 of APT's termination methods
    - ... as well as a project Jason has been working on in his spare time at his home!

    Stay tuned. :)
     
  15. Mr.Blaze

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    we can also grab the littile green guys ears and make him scream uncle lol

    my swartz is as big as yours
     
  16. Vietnam Vet

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    One more vote to keep the execution protection in. I am on 98SE here and have to worry about resources, but if I am online(dialup), TDS-3 is running, no exceptions, and execution protection does not ever get removed. :)
     
  17. Jooske

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    Hi Vietnam_Vet, good to see you again.
    It's fortunately already decided the exec protection will stay in both products.
    I hope to be able to have the Active guard resident in autostart and use the TDS Pro part afterwards like i do at the moment. Exactly for that exec protection. Would like that starting before windows does! :cool:
     
  18. Gavin - DiamondCS

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    If you have Active Guard, you wont NEED Execution Protection in TDS-4 Professional, because they both use the same scanning engine, R4.

    So dont worry :) because everyone will love Active Guard and on demand scanners will be just for fun or tools mostly :)

    Enjoy Process Guard and Port Explorer - since 99% of old trojans are detected by the USER and Port Explorers hidden server detection technology. Newer DLL injecting trojans CANT run. Forced injection trojans CANT enter your processes and hide from your firewall. How they gonna beat you ? :D
     
  19. Jooske

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    On win9x systems where PG doesn't run?
    MS is forcing the whole win9x family to upgrade to xp at least, so that will beat a lot of those vulnerabilities --if they finally have been able to close all the over 65,000 ones in win2000 without creating new ones since it's first release.
     
  20. Gavin - DiamondCS

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    I guess on Win9x use SSM, but there is no real solution for Win9x. The shared memory area poses problems and there are too many "cheap" ways to get to Ring0 and run privileged commands. The platform as a whole is not securable properly, its as simple as that. Virus writers have produced some very nasty malware for Win9x (VXD rootkits come to my mind as the most despised).

    Not to mention on Win9x things like CIH and Magistr can destroy your BIOS :(
     
  21. Mr.Blaze

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    :eek:yikes i gues the littile green guy with pointy ears got a frind with a gloweing sword lol

    :Dguess not good ideal to pull them green ears lol
     
  22. Jooske

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    What's happening with you Blaze? somebody tried the wooden spoon on you?
    Hope you're still trojan-free on your system or was this nasty virus infection talk?
     
  23. Judith VanZevern

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    Hi All
    I think there are many of us still trying to learn TDS3. I don't mind waiting.
    I would also like to add, the Help File is the best I have ever seen, and would even purchase that if it were in hard copy or soft copy book form. There is so much there that I have wanted explained to me and couldn't find anywhere.
     
  24. Jooske

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    Some people print it out -- will take over 300 pages.
    Yes it's quite an amazing manual. I like it a lot too.
    Took many weeks to create that, very informative and still we ask additional info :)
    Ever in a msagent script with voice recognition added the command "Help!" and calling that opens the helpfile, even if you don't have TDS open that moment, or call "update!" and it updates the TDS databases.
    Don't recommend to have an msagent script reading it all aloud for you though, would take a few days!
     
  25. Mr.Blaze

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    :D yup im still trojan free nd i fond that with that big voice file i dowenloaded from microsoft that you joosky gave me a link to that

    my tds now has a real female voice that doesnt sound robotic lol

    i think its cause im now useing windows xp so voices are way difrent?

    plus microsoft 2002 apps like works 2002
     
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