Avast emulator service - what is it?

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  1. act8192

    act8192 Registered Member

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    Firewall says Avast 7 on XP want to run emulator service.
    What is it?
    What does it do?
    Do I allow it? Not allow it to run? Why?
    Being part of Avast, i'd trust it, but might be some fake thing?
     
  2. Victek

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    Look here. Seems legit.

    https://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=76482.0
     
  3. act8192

    act8192 Registered Member

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    Thanks, Victek123!

    I forgot to say what the firewall alert included
    c:\Program Files\AVAST Software\Avast\defs\12040401\Sf.bin

    DavidR answer in the link makes sense
    "A probable over simplified explanation:
    Emulation is used by the File System Shield on scans as another means to detect possible malicious content, e.g. the file is run in an emulator environment to see what it actually does when run. This is over and above the standard signature based scan that would be done."

    additionally, if looks suspicious, Avast will check things in the sandbox.

    I wonder why I got hit with the alert as I entered this forum and another. Neither has ads. But maybe it's an application check, something like Opera cacheing stuff?
     
  4. i_g

    i_g Registered Member

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    The emulator is used for executables only, i.e. ads are unrelated.
    Something must have been started (or created) on background.
     
  5. qakbot

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    All emulators have serious holes.. probably not worth the trouble.
     
  6. vlk

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    As a code emulator is a foundation of most of today's AV engines, that statement sounds a bit exaggerated.
     
  7. RejZoR

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    It's like saying, car's engine is very inefficient. Probably not worth using it.
    Well, there really isn't any other good alternative. You can go to HIPS or Sandboxing extremes but if those were the magic silver bullet, we wouldn't still be using "traditional" antiviruses. Nothing is perfect but current emulators are quite efficient.
     
  8. act8192

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    I've been allowing sf.bin to run for, now, obvious reasons. But I have a problem. I have to allow it with every single definitions update. Bit of a nuisance.

    For example, today it's
    ...avast\defs\12040800\sf.bin
    ...avast\defs\12040801\sf.bin
    and they're different.

    I use behavior watch in the firewall. Unfortunately, I can't add a general rule such as "permit everything avast", or "any sf.bin and allow it to be modified". The firewall hits every single version of Sf.bin which changes its path, size etc. If I ran SSM, I think I'd have the same problem - with the interface disabled, sf.bin wouldn't run at all, with it enabled, I'd have the nag.

    Suggestions?
     
  9. act8192

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    Update. Took a bag off my brain. Problem solved. Once I enabled all logging for avast items, the log said Sf.bin is started by avastsvc. So all I had to do is allow avast service to run other stuff. SIMPLE :)
     
  10. RejZoR

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    The scan engine can be updated with every VPS update so thats why SF.bin changes regularly.
     
  11. act8192

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    False success report above. It didn't work. The changes in the path and file continue to trigger an alert. Arrrggghhh.
    Googling, I also see that Outpost, OnlineArmor, Comodo suffer the same fate as my Sunbelt fw, i.e. nuisance. Yikes.
    I can live with it though, now that I see what's going on and when and where it gets triggered.
     
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