I won't connect my dishwasher to your stupid cloud Jeff Geerling - March 24, 2025 https://www.jeffgeerling.com/blog/2025/i-wont-connect-my-dishwasher-your-stupid-cloud His YT video seems to have been watched some 700.000 times. I don't use YT nor X, but it seems to be here: https://x.com/geerlingguy/status/1904038872574828939 About the horror of IoT .....
That article might be a little misleading. As seen here (their bold, my underline), I don't know, but for me, I cannot think of any reason I would need "remote" monitoring. Nor do I see any reason I would need to start the dishwasher remotely. If I forgot to start it before leaving the house, odds are I forgot to add detergent too. And what good is the ability to monitor energy consumption? It is not like I could tell it to use less. On the plus side, as the author noted, it is a highly rated dishwasher. I just wonder how much extra wifi and app support added to the cost.
That manual for the machine in questions mentions that you cannot use certain programs such as Rinse, Self clean and Eco. This seems to differ per machine, as per the original blog:
I feel like some of these dish washers are getting like washing machines for clothes. The fancier (more expensive/more profitable) machines, and the ones the salespeople push come with 30 different wash settings consumers just have to have. Then, after the newness wears off, you end up only using "Normal/Permanent Press", "Bulky" and "Short/Delicate". Same with that matching dryer. As for those DWs that require the app, I just don't see how any maker can think requiring an app is better or more convenient. It makes no sense one would have to find their phone, open the app and select Rinse just to rinse a 1/2 load so it won't start stinking. How is that better than pressing a button on the control panel?
If I could be a single voice of dissention, I like using apps. I find they extremely useful. I have cerebral palsy, and while I'm not confined to a wheelchair in-house, I do struggle pretty mightily with seemingly ordinary functions like movement. I app allows me to change a wash setting eliminates the task of walking to the washer. Easy to do for some, but not for me.
I truly appreciate your candor and understand how apps might be very helpful for you. But I have to wonder, I've been around dishwashers for at least 60 years and I honestly don't remember a single time there has ever been a need to change a wash setting once started. I have stopped washing to add a forgotten dish, but not changed a setting. Is that something you do frequently enough to warrant an app?
Not often, I admit. But if there's a pan or baking sheet I think could use an extra long cycle it would be nice to change the cycle via app if need be. Not even that, specifically. But sometimes it's hard to lift myself up to the dishwasher, washing machine, counter, etc., so not being required to do so would also be nice. I know I'm not the everyman-type case. Still, even niche features can be useful to some.
Yeah I agree that in some cases, apps can be really helpful. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I don't see how it exactly helps in your case. You still need to load the dishwasher with dirty dishes, so that can still be challenging. But then while already there you can use the physical buttons to turn on the machine and choose a different cycle/program if needed. Most older machines also include buttons to delay the start for 3 or 6 hours for example to let it run outside of peak hours.
I totally understand and respect that. While my physical limitations are minimal compared to yours, I am a "boomer" well into my 70s with a body that constantly reminds me of that. No doubt, many things that simply make something more convenient may certainly be worth paying extra for. But for me ("for now") it would have to be a convenience I would use frequently, or could not live without. For example, "for now" I still mow my own lawn but having a "self-propelled" mower is an absolute must, worth every penny of the extra $100 it added to the cost. And when/if this mower dies and if I'm still able to mow, no doubt my next mower will be self-propelled too but this time it will also have electric start (if not battery powered); my worn-out rotator cuff will make sure of that. I guess that is part of the problem. This is not an older model but brand new and apparently, the delay start button on the control panel has been removed and now can only be accessed through a much more convenient location in the app on the phone everyone keeps strapped to their waist at all times. Totally unrelated to dishwashers, but still related, Are Vehicle Infotainment Screens Headed for the Scrap Heap? Goodbye, annoying touchscreens. Welcome back, buttons? | Popular Science
