Any way to understand why my PC freezes?

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Wallaby, Jan 24, 2025.

  1. Wallaby

    Wallaby Registered Member

    If I had a BSOD that would be easy, via WinDbg I could understand some conflicts, some causes that lead to a malfunction and to a BSOD.

    Unfortunately that is not my case.
    Since a few months my PC (Windows 10 Home) freezes... better would be to say that the mouse cursor remains blocked in its position.
    I can say that it does not accept any entry from the keyboard and the mouse is "freezed" (frozen?), but I can see that the clock goes on and that any program in execution is still running.. the only problem is that I can not interact at all and I have to press/release the power button to make a shutdown.
    If I unplug the mouse and if I insert it again in the USB I can hear the "ding-dong" sound, the same with the keyboard. Nothing happens. Still freezed.
    The same with an external USB drive

    This has happened also with the PC just switched on, with no particular program running except my AV (ESET NOD32) and Firewall (COMODO).
    Does it happen always? No.
    I kept the PC powered on since last friday until yesterday (thursday) and nothing happened in almost a week.
    Since yesterday, when it was powered on again, it froze this morning at 7.00, at 10.00, at 12.30 and at 14.15... so 4 times till now

    Any idea about what should I look to have an idea what is happening?
    Thanks in advance as usual.
     
  2. ronjor

    ronjor Global Moderator

  3. Antarctica

    Antarctica Registered Member

  4. Wallaby

    Wallaby Registered Member

    Yes.
    Since at the end I press the power button, if the shutdown procedure works well nothing shows up as you can see.
    In the cases when there is some program that prevents the shutdown, and so I cannot move the cursor to click on "Shutdown anyway" (or something similar in English... in Italian is "Arresta comunque") and so I can only press the reset button, then a message saying that Windows was not correctly closed shows in the Reliability Monitor

    I wouldn't like to pay for a program that maybe cannot help so much...
     

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  5. Mr.X

    Mr.X Registered Member

    Personal edition seems to be free to use. I downloaded it at runs without asking for a key or serial number.
     
  6. ronjor

    ronjor Global Moderator

  7. stapp

    stapp Global Moderator

  8. Buddel

    Buddel Registered Member

    I would just start from scratch and reinstall the OS.
     
  9. xxJackxx

    xxJackxx Registered Member

    If the memory modules are removable... power down and remove them. Clean the contacts with electronic contact cleaner or a pencil eraser. Reinsert and power on. Might help, can't hurt.
     
  10. Brummelchen

    Brummelchen Registered Member

    sound weird, but uninstall comodo.
    can you provide the dumps you used for windbg? its installed here and i may see something else.
    zip and attach if possible.
     
  11. hawki

    hawki Registered Member

  12. xxJackxx

    xxJackxx Registered Member

    Be careful of posting dumps publicly, they may contain sensitive information.
     
  13. DangitallRedux

    DangitallRedux Registered Member

    Depending on how long ago your OS was installed, it might not be a bad idea to go the "Repair Installation" route. This should help get rid of some of the crud that Windows seems to naturally attract and retain. This is not quite the nuclear option of a full wipe and reinstall, and can be done while retaining apps, settings, and personal data.
     
  14. TairikuOkami

    TairikuOkami Registered Member

    Update BIOS/drivers (particularly for chipset). But considering the specific times, AV or firewall might be blocking the driver.
     
  15. Wallaby

    Wallaby Registered Member

    Update.
    Just freezed again (both keyboard and mouse).
    This time I unplugged the mouse and plugged it into the USB port in the front panel... the mouse resurrected.
    Same thing with the keyboard.

    I checked and saw that 1 USB 3.0 port in the rear panel and 1 USB 3.0 in the front panel seem to bring life to both mouse & keyboard.

    So it is a HW problem I think.

    In short:
    - when the PC is switched on, both mouse & keyboard work well in any USB they are plugged into (3.0 or 2.0)
    - after a random period of time they stop to respond. If I unplug them from their USB port I can hear the "sound". The same when I plug them again in their USB port.
    - the only way to bring them to life is to plug them into two USB 3.0 ports (is it just a coincidence?)

    To add more information, this is a PC "built" in 2011 with Windows 7 and updated to Windows 10 two years ago.
    One of the two USB 3.0 ports on the front panel stopped working a pair of years ago, but I think it is due to contacts that became defective.

    What is your advice now, with these new pieces of information?
    I don't have the tools nor the knowledge to make HW changes/maintenance.
     
  16. T-RHex

    T-RHex Registered Member

  17. xxJackxx

    xxJackxx Registered Member

    Sounds like problems I have had in the past on a PC I built about the same time. Who is the manufacturer of the USB 3 ports in this PC? They were not Intel at that time. I have to use the renesas usb 3.0 extensible host controller driver for mine to work correctly. Windows Update randomly replaces the drivers with Microsoft drivers and they fail to work or work at USB 1.0 speeds. Replacing the mentioned drivers fixes it until the next time it happens.
     
  18. Wallaby

    Wallaby Registered Member

    It was enabled, now I have disabled it.


    In the Motherboard ASUS P8Z68-V specifications summary I can read:
    Thanks to all that have posted so far in this thread :thumb:
     
  19. xxJackxx

    xxJackxx Registered Member

  20. Brummelchen

    Brummelchen Registered Member

    to clarify - i am not nosy. i focus facts when someone offer dumps.

    but - freezing means at least no dump in most cases.
    check the windows "Reliability" tool for red cross and report the full content.

    for me - i have experienced some USB hardware failures like this, most common caused by too much current (ampere). maybe weather flash impact - and died.
     
  21. xxJackxx

    xxJackxx Registered Member

    It wasn't an accusation, just a general warning about posting dumps in a public forum. ;)

    Agreed, you will almost never get a dump from a freeze.
     
  22. Brummelchen

    Brummelchen Registered Member

    thank you :)
     
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