Hello All Purchased this Ibuypower Ready Built Prebuilt AMD Ryzen 7 7700X and Radeon 7800XT Video card with the following Motherboard Pro B650-VC Wifi Contacted Ibuypower by Email and response got was motherboard is not properitary, and you can update your bios from MSI's motherboard site when you want to if you shall desire (That version currently in beta, is it best to wait til its out of beta, then install it? My First AMD Ryzen Build **other friends of mine i asked about this, said only update if having issues, which i think in my opinion is wrong way of thinking, as i always updated with my old system before i had any problems**
These days manufacturers release the product and fix it later, so updating BIOS is basically mandatory. AMD BIOS updates generally update AGESA ComboPI amongst other things. Code: https://itigic.com/amd-combo-pi-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work/ https://www.techpowerup.com/323951/msi-releases-amd-agesa-combo-pi-1-2-0-0-bios-update-for-compatibility-fixes-with-nvidia-gpus On top of it, modern motherboards have Flash BIOS Button, so you can update or revert previous BIOS without CPU/RAM/GPU, so no need to even boot PC. Code: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTkXunUAriE
I'm more on "defensive" side almost like you friends. Firmware not always has good QA, especially beta version. I would certainly not rush to update. If you dom't have issues, then don't update until firmware is out of beta testing. Even then I wouls wait for a week or two, then try to Google if this update wont't cause problems.
I Definitely not in a rush to update, certainly I planned to wait til out of beta Will even backup the system to backup drive before I perform the update and also make sure I take pictures with cell phone on all the settings and fan settings prior to going ahead with updating once final for about two weeks sounds like good plan to me Only slight issue is sorta slow boot time, but then again I typically leave on to do some tasks overnight, but of course this modern Ryzen system completes tasks so quickly versus my older Intel 10700, most of the time whatever task is done before I'm even asleep lol. Though very very happy with performance this one actually boosts to rated speed on Air cooling. And doesn't go over 85C typically. Old system it only got to about 4.6ghz barely hit rated boost speed of 4.8ghz, then again my old case stinked for Airflow ThermalTake v200 Rgb
My personal policy is after reading its changelog, if it is needed for security or performance, then yes, otherwise no. Just like with drivers, if it a`int needed why do it. Being obsessed about it is the enemy.
@AMDGamer2016 - Is your computer broken? If not, DON'T FIX IT!!! 100% agree. Most motherboard BIOS updates just add support for new CPUs and RAM that came out after the motherboard left the factory. When there are "fixes" - especially for motherboards that have been in production for awhile, those fixes typically are for obscure problems that affect only a small handful of users. And I note the initial release of that motherboard/BIOS was back in October 2022 - plenty of time to fix any major issues. So no, it is not mandatory you update the BIOS - not UNLESS you are upgrading your CPU or RAM to a model not supported by the current BIOS version, or unless you are experiencing a problem the update is reported to fix. Bricking a motherboard while updating the BIOS is very rare these days, it can happen. For that reason alone, "because a new version is out there" is NOT a valid excuse to update. But if you do decide to update anyway, I urge the following precautions, (1) back up any files or data you don't want to lose and (2) put the computer on a fully charged, "good" UPS with AVR before starting the update. I would also urge you stick to the final release versions and avoid the "beta" releases, unless you want to be a guinea pig for the motherboard maker/BIOS developer with no expectation of any compensation should you end up with a paperweight. *** Oh, and BTW, shotgun posting the same question across multiple forums and sites is considered poor forum etiquette. There are several reasons for this. It ties up multiple volunteer assets that could be helping others. It can result in conflicting and thus confusing advice and responses. It can also result in some threads left dangling. It is also like going to a crowded grocery store, where everyone else is waiting their turn, patiently in line, and you dispatch your kids to multiple checkout lines, then running over to the one that opens up first. For those reasons (and more) it is best to open up just one thread until the problem is resolved. If the problem is not resolved after a reasonable amount of time, then it is fine to open another elsewhere as long as you refer/link back to the previous so those helping can see what has already been tried. And finally, be sure to revisit each thread you opened to post the final resolution/update to avoid leaving any open threads dangling and unresolved. Thanks for your cooperation on this. Updating Bios on Pro B650-VC Wifi Rev 1.0 - Internal Hardware (bleepingcomputer.com)
I always find interesting that people, who tell users to update Windows ASAP for security/performance, also tell users NEVER to update drivers for security/performance. BIOS updates also address fTPM as well, needless to say more?! Code: https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/update-your-security-processor-tpm-firmware-94205cbc-a492-8d79-cc55-1ecd6b0a8022 https://hothardware.com/news/bios-security-vulnerability-affects-intel-cpus-hundreds-of-devices https://www.techspot.com/news/101890-amd-ryzen-cpus-impacted-all-serious-vulnerabilities.html
Yes its on a Fully charged UPS already, believe it has AVR, but i'll check the specs of this APC Battery Backup right away--((UPS also has a fresh newly replaced battery from a few months ago)) **Though maybe i should've upgraded this UPS with a Cyberpower version that really did have AVR** Now sure if this APC Battery Backup 1350M2 does or not off hand I've always stuck to final release versions even with my older Computers. And Will remember to open topic on one site from now on, as well as revisit each spot i opened a thread to give final resolution as well. I appreciate the prompt replies on this topic, and the advice, and will follow the advice given, and make my decision for sure when said bios is final, and if i decide to go thru with updating, then will make sure i have all my Backups done, UPS is fully charged, and Weather on said day i decide to do it or not is calm, and low risk for a power outage. Speaking of UPS Device did i plug in the usb cable to this newer system ((if i got a port left back there lol)) i should have, don't think i used all 7 USB A ports lol.
Great! Unless it is a most basic battery backup only UPS, it most likely has AVR (automatic voltage regulation) too. If this is yours, then it absolutely does have AVR - and definitely is a "good" UPS with AVR. I would like to see a link to one person, just one - who advises users to "NEVER" update drivers for security/performance. Just one! To be sure, I always advise users to keep their OS (and security) current. But I also frequently advise users that drivers do NOT need to be updated just because a new driver update is out there (the exception might be graphics card drivers). But I have NEVER advised any one to avoid updating a driver if that driver addresses a security issue, or fixes a performance problem. So I ask again, please show us where users are being advised to "NEVER" update their drivers, even when that update addresses a security issue.
I always update my BIOS, haven't experienced any issues.(Lenovo). Most of them contain security fixes as well. Yes, if you just bought a model that is less than a year old, most likely you will need important fixes that were fixed too late. Even if the product is already older than 1 year, you might still get important updates from the manufacterer or they updated the included AGESA from AMD.
I personally more "defensive" policy for firmware is apriopriate. Bad firmware coule lead to hardware damage in worst scenario(rare but possible). Microcode can be updated without UEFI updates later in boot process and not everybody uses TPM.
I have just bought a new motherboard and updated BIOS and I do not even have CPU nor RAM yet. Disabling STAPM alone is worth it. Code: https://www.anandtech.com/show/21257/amd-fixed-the-stapm-throttling-issue-so-we-retested-the-ryzen-7-8700g-and-ryzen-5-8600g
Not in every case. First off, AMD only supplies separate microcode updates for server hardware. Consumers only get UEFI updates. Intel does provide separate microcode updates. You get those automatically on Linux, but Windows only pushes some microcode updates and some need to be manually installed(and may not be even availabe for manual install.) Though depending on your manufacturer, you might get microcode updates through Windows Update, but I'm not sure if those are also available as microcode only or only as UEFI update though Windows Update.
Bios Updated successfully (Final version) early this morning on latest A.G.E.S.S.A. update now Did have to reconfigure some bios settings in relation to Fan settings, and a Expo ram, and no sign of any micro code updates via Windows update at all. I took alot of pictures a week ago to make sure i got it setup exactly like it was originally. And system image backup was done prior to doing this update System running just fine it appears, Temps aren't too bad even with this Air Cooler, CCD got a little warm eariler, but Rest of the Cores max temp on those highest was 83C. So Alls good, now i know in the future if need to update again, should go just fine like todays again P.S. might try to get SecondLife working fairly well on Gaming Laptop tomorrow, with the RL temps being warmer, even with A/C on, this room still toasty lol/PC exhausting properly thats for sure lol
