Bork Tuesday, Any Problems Yet?

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by Daveski17, Nov 12, 2014.

  1. kaljukass

    kaljukass Registered Member

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    If you have MBR, you don't have any boot partition.
    The MBR itself is not located in a partition, but it is located at a first sector of the device (physical offset 0), preceding the first partition. (The boot sector present on a non-partitioned device or within an individual partition is called a volume boot record instead.)
     
  2. Tarnak

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    Since Microsoft updates can be unreliable, to say the least, I have decided not to play with fire, and have chosen to delay.

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  3. SRT

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    It installed today, no problems. Without partition crap, my advice wait at least three weeks before installing broken windows updates or have a great backup setup.
     
  4. roger_m

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    I like to keep my computers secure by keeping them updated. I installed updates on over 200 computers last year, including updating from old builds of Windows 10 to the latest build, on a number of them, without causing any issues. So while Windows Update certainly can cause it issues, my experience continues to be that it is very rare. So once again, I see no good reason to avoid updates.

    I've never used O&O ShutUp, because such tools can potentially cause issues.
    https://www.howtogeek.com/273513/why-you-shouldnt-use-anti-spying-tools-for-windows-10/
     
  5. Azure Phoenix

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    Not saying that some of those tools won’t cause problems.

    Right now I would have like it if the author spend more time analyzing each tool, not just grouping all of them together.
     
  6. Rasheed187

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    I totally get what you're saying. But I'm afraid that I had a couple of bad experiences with updates, they either damaged Windows, or stopped my security tools from working correctly. They gave me more problems than malware itself. And O&O ShutUp is actually pretty good, but similar tools can sometimes indeed cause problems.

    Also, updates can stop hackers from using known holes, but it can't stop them from using unknown holes, so when you think about it, your computers are never really secure. So that's why using the right security tools and not being click happy is way more important than patching, at least when it comes to home user PC's. But obviously, patching is of course part of safe computing practices.
     
  7. kaljukass

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    It's very sad when you talk like that. Downright depressing.
     
  8. roger_m

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    I've had a few bad experiences with updates too, but there have also been hundreds, if not thousands of times when I've had no problems. Some security tools will require updates to work with new builds of Windows. But most antivirus software will continue to work fine. I've never used O&O ShutUp (or any tool like that), so I've got no experience with it causing issues. But I am very well aware that tools like than sometimes do cause issues. When I see the amount of posters in this thread having regular issues with Windows Update, when I very rarely do, I can only presume it is through the use of privacy tools like that and other third party security software.

    I really don't know why you wouldn't want to patch known security holes. Just keeping a computer updated and not being click happy, can keep a computer very well protected, without having use even a single third party security tool.
     
  9. Krusty

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    Today's .Net Framework Preview update and KB5034203 Preview installed without issue, but as I installed them together it took two restarts.

    The other problem child update is still failing. Not bothered to fix it my end.
     
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    After install and a Reboot: :gack: More info here from Today: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/microsoft/windows-10-kb5034203-preview-update-adds-eu-dma-compliance/

    And when it installed on the 11th of January: https://blogs.windows.com/windows-insider/2024/01/11/releasing-windows-10-build-19045-3992-to-release-preview-channel/ with a different Build number but same KB5034203o_O

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    I tried the update in question and it installed without any problems. Either MS has already fixed it on their side or my system is not one of the affected ones.
     
  14. stapp

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    Not fixed on one Win 10 machine. The other one doesn't have a recovery partition.
     
  15. pegas

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    My disk
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    I have a recovery partition but BitLocker is disabled.
     
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    Yes, I read that article also. I still don't understand why this update was pushed to those on Windows Home versions; we don't have the formal BitLocker program itself. I mean, I understand that some future users might want to upgrade to Pro or other paid versions but you can cross that bridge when you get to it.

    Could have saved us a lot of aggravation just pushing it to paid Windows and keeping it there for anyone migrating to use it.
     
  21. Phil459

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    One thing I know, if there's a way to complicate things MS will go out of their way to find it.
     
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    MS-DEFCON 2: Microsoft and compliance by Susan Bradley - AskWoody​
     
  23. ProTruckDriver

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    Everything updated, except KB5034441. Still getting an error on that update with Windows 10 Pro.
    It sure looks that way.
     
  24. B-boy/StyLe/

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    All installed fine but after a reboot I noticed that the most of my pinned shortcuts were gone (despite they are still in the %appdata%\Microsoft\Internet Explorer\Quick Launch\User Pinned\TaskBar) and also my icons in the system tray were gone as well. It wasn't Kaspersky, Comodo or Open-Shell causing the problem. Restarting the explorer.exe fixed the issue, at least for the current session. After a reboot, the same happened and I had to kill and restart explorer.exe manually again. Uninstalling the update didn't fix that. However, I still believe this was caused by the KB5034763 update (regarding the changelog it altered the explorer.exe to fix a vulnerability - "This update addresses an issue that affects explorer.exe. It might stop responding. This occurs when you restart or shut down a PC that has a controller accessory attached to it.") For now, I will wait for a hotfix or simple will restore the image before the updates from today. Not a big deal, but really annoying.

    It also asked me to sign in my Windows account and to sync it with it. It definitely did some modifications to my current account and said "Preparing Windows" like when I run Windows for a first time after a clean installation. Very weird.
     
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  25. NormanF

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    Triple Update boot for Windows 11 23H2 today.

    Once on initial reboot after the first stage then rebooted a second time after completing the second stage.

    Went to the start screen after clearing the third stage. No problems in signing into Windows.
     
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