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  1. Rico

    Rico Registered Member

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    left & right arrows tried, clicking, sliding, up/down arrows, will not adjust values. Strange thought about demo version, trial, that seems not likely to help.

    Long shot anything to disable prior to re-size, allowing more access by mini.?
     
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    Sorry, it's the up/down triangles just to the left of MB. I shouldn't have said arrows.
     
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    These triangles...

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    If minitool is not working for you try the AOMEI Partition Assistant Standard. It is also a free partition manager.
     
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    I was actually able to force Paragon to be able to resize the recovery partition on Win 11 23H2 by changing the partition type and attributes using diskpart to make it a basic data partition. Once you have selected the recovery partition in diskpart, use

    set id=ebd0a0a2-b9e5-4433-87c0-68b6b72699c7
    gpt attributes=0X8000000000000000

    But if one has to do all this work themselves then it defeats the purpose of using a partition manager in the first place. It is embarrassing for Paragon as even their paid hard disk manger is unable to resize the recovery partition in Win 11 23H2 that their competitor's free versions can do.
     
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    Rico, if all this is too much of a hassle, then instead of doing this just buy a SSD. SSDs are quite cheap right now too. You can use Macrium to clone your current Hard drive over to the SSD, and then just use your hard drive as a data drive. With a SSD you do not need Intel Optane for acceleration, as the SSD will be quite fast on its own.

    Just something to consider.
     
  7. Rico

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    They fail as well, I'll try again, And eat some crow if it works.
     
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    I retried left/right side worked, ALSO Started mini 'run as admin'
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    the slider is hard to control, previous try tried all! Now comes the acid test reboot and Optane enable. Thank You!
     
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    after rebooting:
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    then
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    Rescan shows first opening Intel's gui
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    rescan nothing, choose one then scan?
     
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    If Intel optain is still not working then you can try resolving your issues by resetting your BIOS/UEFI to factory defaults.
     
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    M10 seen on memory card > Intel says if disk is formatted 'Dynamic' Optane won't work. Install of Windows came fro drive formatted NTFS. Is formating to Dynamic a choice?
     
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    The disk management images you posted earlier state that all your partitions are "basic", so you do not have a dynamic formatted disk.
     
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    Did you change something in the BIOS because Intel optane has to be enabled in the BIOS for it to work.
     
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    Hi Raza where did you see , 'basic' formatting, looked could not see dismgmt.

    Yes! Optane needs enabling stuff in the BIOS. I thought since Optane worked well, and only stopped, after replacing SATA drive, NO unknown changes would have occurred, without user warning from the system. Hoped the visit could be avoided

    Upon Windows11 install I chose "full format, at partition phase of winnows install, I chose not to install Dell partition (It said Dell on it)
    Rebooted > slow walked to win log in > painfully slow load of win system tray. First hint Optane behavior bad.

    Next the boot Dell logo screen missing & F2 & F12 not function, repeated pressing of F2 and or F12, from win signoff (press press press) till Windows log in screen

    Also BIOS will not UPDATE.

    DL from Dell or Win11 optional updates > "ALL" say install success, in Windows > Reboot > check "older version"

    It feel like at reboot, no place or path exists to take the update, so the machine boots from older version. Speculation Rico

    Checking BIOS

    I need a heads-up prior to entering what to look for:

    I think the only way to get back Dell recovery partition & Dell bios Logo screen, is to Dell factory reset.

    Dedicate boot disk to BIOS where or how, for boot disk to bios?

    I tried on an ancient laptop, command: elevated prompt: to enter bios from within windows 'fail' try again

    Boot disk to BIOS requires UEFI, and boot options equals F2, andif F12 fails to bring up an alternate booting menu or the BIOS. Then could UEFI be disabled (temp), navigate to BIOS (how)
    > check optane settings >save exit >re-enable UEFI how.

    Also anyway to check if optane M10 on label of the M2 optane module. If that memory module, is bad, replacing may be easier than BIOS solution/checking
     
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    Have you tried the command line on your Dell desktop?
     
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    It should be under the column "Type". Yours say "Basic". If your partitions were formatted as "Dynamic", it would have said "Dynamic" under the "Type".

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    So here are the steps you need to try:

    1- Clean Optane memory

    In my previous post the link I posted says that if Optane was paired with a different volume beforehand, you may receive an error that you are receiving upon trying to pair it with a new volume. Please follow the instructions in that article and clean your Optane memory module.

    2- Entering BIOS/UEFI

    If you are on Windows 11, you do not need to hit any key to enter BIOS/UEFI. Just follow the steps below.

    From within Windows 11 go to:

    Settings > System > Recovery > Advanced Startup (hit "Restart Now")

    Your PC will reboot into a blue screen with options. On that screen choose:

    Troubleshoot > Advanced Options > UEFI Firmware Settings > Restart to change UEFI firmware setting

    Your PC will now reboot into BIOS/UEFI or to a screen from where you can select to enter BIOS/UEFI/or "Enter Setup" option.

    When you are there I would recommend to reset BIOS to factory defaults.

    3- If all this fails

    If the above two steps fail then I recommend that you give up on Optane and buy a 2.5 inch SATA SSD. Optane was a stopgap measure introduced about 15 years ago to accelerate old mechanical hard drives during the time when SSDs were very expensive. In 2023, SSDs are very cheap and there is no reason to use or mess around with Optane. But of course the final decision is yours.
     
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  18. Rico

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    @briank - not yet, gathering info, on what needs changing. Used Google Bard, & VPN no confident in what to do.

    @Raza0007 - Wow! Now were talking about the title of this thread. Cool! That would need data cable & power, find where the plugs go, config really simple.

    I still need to see if I can get into the BIOS, if there check optane setting.

    I do like the idea of being true to thread title!
     
  19. Rico

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    @Raza0007
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    Choice of two flavors SSD to choose from, current status Optane broken.

    If I'm thinking correctly I should choose SATA SSD, not M2 SSD <screen shot snipped from Bard>

    I wonder if an M2 SSD, would work with broken (won't enable) Optane?
     
  20. Rico

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    @Raza0007 @Brian K - Tried Raza's method, smooth sailing till, " Advanced Startup (hit "Restart Now")" the screen went black, wait Windows comes up. Brian your command would fail as well, as the same factors would come into play. That Raza's approach/path took.

    This explains constant tapping F2 and F12 always fail, also this is the reason that BIOS cannot be updated, exchange of info after the boot is lost, resulting Windows.

    The Dell partition I removed may have had a portion dedicated to hand-off, causing no logo & no access to BIOS.

    At least it failed to the working OS
     
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    On the missing Dell partition, this seems not to be the culprit. Perhaps missing something?
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  22. Rico

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    Google Bard is Great! The second method involves, making flash drive to recover

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  23. Rico

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    Bios recovery not available choice, above pic, method 2

    From dell dl BIOS_IMG.rcv latest this machine

    requires boot disk Rufus using Rufus confined:
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    Note: Used free Dos instead of shown MS DOS. <MS required another dl to function>

    The boot disk made: I copied BIOS_IMG.rcv

    Is that A-OK for an attempt to repair/access BIOS without smoke?

    The next step from Bard says:

    Remove CMOS Battery for one minute re-insert, then plug in.

    Why or what's trying to be accomplished in order to update by remove insert CMOS bat?
     
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    Removing the battery will probably reset all your BIOS settings…

    Personally I would prefer the advice from humans on this forum above AI.
     
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    It probably means your WinRE (recovery environment on the recovery partition) is either not installed or not working properly.



    Rico, unfortunately without having the exact specs of your system, I am unable to make a recommendation. Dell sells various flavors of XPS 8930, with various price points. They most likely have different specs inside. For example, I was able to find a pdf link to XPS 8930 specs on this page here:

    https://dl.dell.com/topicspdf/xps-8930-desktop_setup-guide_en-us.pdf

    According to this link you have three 3.5 inch HD slots, one M2 slot that can accommodate PCIe/NVMe SSD of upto 1 TB and one DVD slot. If this is true I would go for a NVMe SSD as they are a lot faster then SATA SSDs.

    But I am not sure if the above specs apply to the version of the Dell XPS 8930 that you have, so please do not just buy something based just on my recommendation.

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    Also at this point I am at a loss to suggest anything else for your issues. Hopefully someone else here will jump in and help. If it was me I would format everything and start with a fresh install of Windows 11.
     
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