is there a way to check hardware or a site before installing a linux distro ?

Discussion in 'all things UNIX' started by mantra, Jul 11, 2023.

  1. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    Hi
    is there a way to check hardware or a site that according the hardware could suggest a linux distro?

    recently I have tried to install linuxmint-21.1-cinnamon-64bit.iso ,without luck , on an empty ssd but it does freeze during frequenctly booting via usb created with rufus

    I have tried to insall mbr , maybe uefi is better?

    have you found linux distros not stable (freezing) ?

    and about an empty ssd are there some steps to install correclty via mbr creating partitions (i have selected an empty ssd) ?

    thanks
     
  2. Dmitry_rus

    Dmitry_rus Registered Member

    Some BIOS's loaders don't work correctly when booting from NTFS-formatted USB-stick. Booting from USB-stick is ok? Installation completed without any errors?
     
  3. longshots

    longshots Registered Member

    I run Linuxmint [21.1 Cinnamon] and have run it for years as my main OS.
    I do have a spare drive that I use look at other Linux distros.
    I have been using Ventoy for all my Linux installations with no problems.
    It will install any OS straight from the .iso
    I have yet to find a Linux distro that is not stable.
     
  4. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    Hi
    i have used rufus mbr fat32 , booting from usb does freeze very often
    Is there a guide how create partition steps by steps before installing linux
    I guess they are gpu acceleration issues
    maybe it's because i don't boot in eufi?
    thanks
    hi
    no gpu issues?
    can you tell me how create the right partitions to install it ?
    i have selected an empty drive , but Linuxmint [21.1 Cinnamon] did ask me for a Linux Mint [21.1 Cinnamon] root partition
    i have found a tutorial on youtube ,but i can't link it here ,but the name is https://youtu.be/ysqMhUpS7Ew

    thanks
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2023
  5. Dmitry_rus

    Dmitry_rus Registered Member

    Have you used Mint before? Do you consider yourself a confident *nix user? If not, I recommend starting with more user-friendly distros. It seems to me that Ubuntu could be such a distro. You may create partition(s) during installation.
     
  6. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

  7. longshots

    longshots Registered Member

    Wow.
    Do you mind providing a list of these "MORE" user friendly distros - that come with the Cinnamon desktop.
     
  8. Dmitry_rus

    Dmitry_rus Registered Member

    Tastes are different. IMO Cinnamon is cool. But our customers (mostly newbies in *nix) prefer Ubuntu-based distros (I really don't know why).
     
  9. longshots

    longshots Registered Member

    Fair enough, but we're drifting of course here...

    @mantra

    The terabyte link is very old and I'm not sure if it's still applicable
    Take a look at this and see if this will help - for a clean, whole of disk install.
    How to Install Linux Mint [The Simplest Way Possible]
    https://itsfoss.com/install-linux-mint/
     
  10. zapjb

    zapjb Registered Member

    What about running a LiveCD before installing. I've found that to be 95%+ accurate.
     
  11. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    Yes, it's 9 years old and I use it for MBR and UEFI Linux installs. The only difference in the two installs is the "Device for boot loader installation" is Root Partition (Partition Boot Sector) for MBR systems and EFI System Partition for UEFI systems.

    I've never installed Linux to an Entire disk. I always use a 20 GiB Linux Native root partition. I dislike wasted free space.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2023
  12. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    hi
    nice link and tutorial ,but it's better installation type something else
    thanks

    hi
    it does freeze so often , but are the some problems with nvidia video cards gpu or with mbe (no uefi) boot ?
    thanks
     
  13. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    hi
    just tested in compatibity mode it doesn't freeze ,but only booting mbr in compatibility mode

    @Brian K
    hi
    according about my w11 screenshot , should I resize the windows 10 partition , with the screenshot , should I resize MBR1 where there is w11 installed and after winre?
    should I use resize or slide?
    ps have you installed w11 last version , can you make the appliaction bar thinner ? because in the last version i guess it was disabled
    thanks
     
  14. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    Resize Win11 (MBR1) partition smaller. Then you will have space for Linux. There will be space between MBR1 and MBR2 partitions.
     
  15. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    Which is the application bar?
     
  16. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    hi Brian
    well i have done , and i have installed mint correctly ,set bios in Oprom and not uefy , boot in Compatibility mode , installed - rebooted and installed hardware drivers
    it's very stable , but in the bios did appear magically appear 3 Uefi entries , ubuntu (I don't know why) , mint and mint 2 o_Oo_O
    may I ask you why are there MBR1 and MBR2 partitions ? In w10 or 8.1 or 7 there is only 1 MBR1 partition

    and after i resize MBR1 , I install linux with this option
    https://i.imgur.com/5OhOryC.jpg

    https://i.imgur.com/N7LrMR3.jpg

    sorry , google translator is not the best
    I wanted to say Taskbar size , seems in the newer version they remove the option to make it thinner
    thanks Brian , always the best
     
    Last edited: Jul 12, 2023
  17. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    @Brian K

    can I ask you a second question ?
    I have created an image of linux mint with R-Drive Image 6.3.6309 , i have R-Drive Image 7.1.7108 too but looks buggy , it does include grub and linux

    on w10 and w7 mbr i have this partition
    reserved for the system
    windows
    recovery partition

    if I want to restore the mint image i have create on another disk ,like above ,what should I do?
    resize windows or recovery partition or install or if i have unallocated space , and restore the grub mbr (that i can remove with partition work on image for windows via restore MBR
    I know Brian , you are very kind but really english is not my language , i tried to do my best
    thanks
     
  18. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    Microsoft decided the Windows booting files should be in a separate partition. Not in the OS partition. Probably preparing us for UEFI. In MBR systems you can move the booting files into the OS partition if you desire. But not with UEFI systems.

    You can hide it. That's smaller than thinner.

    I don't use your type of multi-boot but I assume you would restore the Linux image to Free Space and restore the First Track (which contains grub). Sometimes the first 130 sectors need to be restored, not just the first 63. Due to grub2 extending beyond the First Track.

    Perfect.
     
  19. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    @Brian K
    is there an utility that can restore only the grub mbr or a mbr backup and restore via windows or usb boot ?
    BOOTICE was a great software but the homepage is down
    I know you use BIBM , i have tried but was not able to install it on several drives :(
    thanks
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2023
  20. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    Let's assume your Win11/Mint drive failed. You could replace it with another drive and only restore the Mint image. It would boot.

    I did this today with the same setup you are using. I used IFL and just did a standard restore without using Restore First Track. IFL has obviously improved since I did my Linux testing years ago.
     
  21. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    You can also restore both OS or restore Win11 only. They work.

    To restore Win11 only you can choose this Option... "Write Standard MBR Code" and Win11 will boot. If you don't use this Option the computer boots to "grub rescue". You then need to boot IFL (Partition Work) and write "Win7 MBR" which will replace the grub boot code. Now Win11 will boot.
     
    Last edited: Jul 13, 2023
  22. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    Hi @Brian K
    i have read it
    but really BOOTICE was a great tool
    I have these hashes , maybe somebody could verificate and confirm

    Code:
    BOOTICEx64_2016.06.17_v1.3.4.0.exe >
      MD5: 7DDD108C095016B0E2E8D6B5B04F93B8
      SHA-1: 3764D75C02C8CE8D2C78203AA9EB7F8018A112E1
      SHA-256: E1CB831AC9213B52066F934BA0FA80EA8A9DE48932452D4142FA085A2BA24FC2
    BOOTICEx86_2016.06.17_v1.3.4.0.exe >
      MD5: FE222560C98A9E276845E453B75693CE
      SHA-1: F110007E230CF8BF8B10BC9C29857E45D25AD898
      SHA-256: 759CF1DAD6E1C93E205EF2F4C913C07F74ED469873D9567DF00619058252E2EC
    
     
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