slow computer

Discussion in 'hardware' started by Siamese Dream, Dec 18, 2022.

  1. pb1

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    How and what you do otherwise is up to you but an SSD for the Os is what you should do for speed.for the same.
     
  2. Willy2

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    Then I would assume that a number of programs are running upon start up that slow down your system. for say 5, 10 ,15, ....... minutes. then you must check what is run upon start up. You probably can remove a few programs or run those programs manually.
     
  3. Brummelchen

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    5 Minutes is neither nor acceptable. my full blown windows 8.1 x86 needed 3 Minutes to get usable, where 1.5min to the desktop. my windows 10 within 30 seconds (not measured), windows 11 much faster - both on (internal) ssd.

    as i wrote, windows is repairing files on boot and that needs time. anyhow, i dont have time and patience to argue against the "better" knowledge. if you feel its allright, then stop this thread right here.
     
  4. Siamese Dream

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    Is a 4-5 year old computer worth it to put an SSD in it? Just wanted to make sure on that.

    Also can I remove these pre-installed games and xbox features?

    Much appreciated.:)
     
  5. Siamese Dream

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    I was going into msconfig and was looking at bootup times and decided against fiddling with that. It read if you change the times they could be permanent.

    I've turned off all background apps so not too sure then. I imagine it has to be not having an SSD.
     
  6. Bill_Bright

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    "Repairing"? Nah! No reason it would need to repair (fix) any files, unless it had just shut down (crashed!) unexpectedly or some other file corruption occurred. And that would not be a normal scenario.

    Also, all these boot time comparisons are not fair or realistic unless the hardware (and its drivers), OS (and its configuration/personalizations), and software loading at boot are 100% identical. Not just the same motherboard, for example, but same motherboard revision and BIOS firmware. Everything exactly the same. Even the same networking environment matters.

    One of the primary reasons earlier versions of Windows took longer to boot was by simple design. Earlier versions were intentionally designed to become available for use only after they had completely loaded. That was NOT a fault - just a design decision.

    Newer versions of Windows, after users kept complaining of long boot times, are designed to load only the minimum and most essential components of the OS as quickly as possible. Even though the OS may "appear" to have fully loaded, it definitely has not. While we users are looking at the log in screen, entering our credentials, calling up our apps, the rest of the lower priority OS components are still loading up in the background too.

    But, to jump on the comparison bandwagon, about 4 1/2 minutes is about the worst boot times I experienced with any of my computers and that was with my old XP/hard drive system. My W10/11, SSD systems typically take 30 seconds or less.
     
  7. roger_m

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    Yes and it should make a big difference in performance. You can remove these apps, but it won't increase performance, just free up a small amount of disk space.
    With Windows 10, open Task Manager and go the Startup tab. It's safe to disable startup items and you can always reenable startup tasks again if you decide you do want them to run at startup again. If you are unsure of it's a good idea to disable a startup item, you can Google it for more information, or just leave it to run. I would not worry about disabling any services at this point, as it could cause problems.
     
  8. Siamese Dream

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    Checked and they're all disabled during startup. Must have been when I turned off background apps.
     
  9. Siamese Dream

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    Now a bios error. It will boot up, turn off, boot up, turn off several times before staying on and the bios setup appears. Asks for returning to the last good state. I'm going to just call in a tech. Any thoughts though is appreciated.
     
  10. plat

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    I didn't read this entire thread, but typically, if a machine boots into BIOS instead of Windows, it's a fault of the boot drive. Either a partition is corrupted or the drive is dying/dead or something.

    If you have another drive handy and a flash drive with Windows install media, that would be something to try before you get any tech involved.

    NB--Started to read the thread to make sure this wasn't mentioned b4--ssd was touched upon but I lost interest after the saintly Defender was besmirched and blah blah.

    So yeah, look at replacing your boot drive b/c when it boots into BIOS, that strongly suggests an issue with the drive itself.
     
  11. Siamese Dream

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    Turns out it was the coin battery that effected the startup. I also had service add the SSD drive. Boots right up in a fraction of the time.
     
  12. plat

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    Oh good, you fixed it. Now you don't need to spend any money on tech support. Very nice. :)
     
  13. Bill_Bright

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    Well, maybe you should make a habit of reading through a thread before replying - or at least read the most recent posts you reply to. Then you would have seen that Siamese Dream said, "I also had service add the SSD drive."
     
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  14. Siamese Dream

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    Yup amazing the boot up time difference. Plus it looks like they added malwarebytes. :)
     
  15. noway

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    They're adding stuff to your computer without asking you first?
     
  16. Siamese Dream

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    Yeah guess I should be concerned. They added teamviewer also. I've asked my ma since she had service with them too.
     
  17. Bill_Bright

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    Malwarebytes would not bother me since they probably used that for a second opinion.

    Teamviewer I would question - and uninstall.
     
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