Sandboxie Technologies (SBIE Open source) (VERSION 5.33.6 ONLY!)

BTW, I have always wondered about this, but am I the only one who simply copies and paste files from sandboxed folders to my real ''non sandboxed'' system? I always disable Quick Recovery and Immediate Recovery because I find it annoying and a bit confusing.

 

For me too, the logic (when the recovery window opens) and the terms ("quick" and "immediate" but also "recovery" [as to my mind it is more a transfer than a recovery]) were always a bit confusing. (But I never disabled it.)

Bo gave above a very good explanation of immediate and quick recovery:

And concerning the folders:

That's indeed a little bit complicated at the beginning, but the method itself (I always use "Immediate Recovery") works fine as soon as you got accustomed to it.

So I think that for daily work your method (the copy and paste) is (much) more complicated:

I have always wondered what may be the "slow recovery" if there is a "quick" and an "immediate" one. But perhaps Ronen (Sandboxie's initial developer) had in mind the way you do it (by copy and paste), as it is indeed slower. I would call your method "manual recovery" (or "manual transfer") (wheras the quick and immediate recovery/transfer are more automated ones).

 

What I basically mean is that I always make shortcuts to sandboxed folders on my desktop. I don't see the need for any automated recovery options, since once every week I simply cut and paste those downloaded files to non sandboxed folders. But I guess it's mostly useful for people who like to delete or clean the sandbox. I don't do this quite often, so in my view, manual recovery is the most simple option.

 

I see. So that's a quite different way of using Sandboxie. Concerning myself, indeed I prefer to delete/clean the sandbox quite often. Whenever (rather seldom) there is a file I would like to keep on my "real" system, I "recover" (transfer) it immediately (as the corresponding recovery option of Sandboxie is called too ). So I know that later on I can delete the contents of my sandboxie without hesitation.

 

I always simply transfer similarly if dumping after session or since most apps I may download for tests these days are still locked in Sandboxed containment, they sit in it's storage so to speak unless they consume more space than I want.

 

I have sandboxes that are purely for browsers like Edge and Vivaldi, and I don't see the need to clean them. As said before, I do transfer downloaded files once a week to my real system. Of course there is a risk that if ransomware manages to run inside the sandbox, it will encrypt those downloaded files that are still inside the sandboxed folder.

And of course I also have sandboxes purely for software testing, I can always manually delete all files in the sandboxes when I'm done with those apps. So for me automatic cleaning and recovering isn't needed. Never understood the whole fuzz about these features. But that's the cool thing, you don't actually have to use all Sandboxie features.

 

I frequently call clean browser sbox and always for sensitive traffic event.
Just habit.

 

The list of sandboxes in my "Run Sandboxed" window is in reverse alphabetical order. How can I fix it?

Thank you.

 

Sandboxie Plus 1.0.1 on Windows 10. The reverse alphabetical order has been there through three or four versions now. There's no option to rearrange it on top, and I haven't found anything in the settings. Just fixed it with a reinstall as I was replying! Upgrade kept it reverse.

 

Just joining in. Similar problem. Only in my case the order seems to be random, rather than reverse alphabetical. Using the "Set Layout and Groups" is useless, I arrange the sandboxes and once I close the dialog, they are scattered all over the place again. I even went so far as manually editing the "BoxDisplayOrder" section of sandboxie.ini, which helped for a few minutes, and then the order changed on its own again. I tried to upgrade to 5.53.3, but the only difference is that now is that section called "BoxExpandedView". But the groups and the order keep changing seemingly on their own. Anyone has any ideas?

Win 7 Pro, i7, 16 GB, user since the early days of Tzuk.

 

Uuups, my bad. There are two sections in the sandboxie.ini that seem to be related to the displayed order, one is "BoxDisplayOrder=" and the other one "SbieCtrl_BoxExpandedView=". The second one is alphabetical and lists just the sandboxes, not the groups. It's "BoxDisplayOrder=" that shows the order and the groups as they appear in the GUI. And it's this section of sandboxie.ini that that now spontaneously rearranges itself, to the point that it loses some of the parentheses, which in turn "removes" the sandboxes from the groups. Weird.

 

Hi mayokey. I just checked my sandboxie.ini to see what I see in there related to BoxExpanded and BoxDisplay. Interestingly, the "BoxDisplayOrder=" setting do not appear. But I have the SbieCtrl_BoxExpandedView=. And it looks with the right order.

I think your solution is to clean install Sandboxie. But perhaps before clean installing SBIE, you could test deleting the "BoxDisplayOrder=" setting in your configuration file, and after a reboot, check and see if the order is back to working properly.

Bo

 

mayokey, another thing, perhaps the "BoxDisplayOrder=" setting belongs to Sandboxie plus. I never seen this box arrangement issue with the original SBIE, and I just noticed you are using version 5.53.3 (I thought it was 5.33,3 what you were using when I wrote my previous post). Good luck.

Bo

 

Hello,

does Sandboxie v5.33.6 work well with Windows 10 Pro version 21H2 (build 19044), is anyone using this combination?

I'm still using version 20H2 (build 19042), without a problem, but am thinking about updating because of support's end in May.

Thank you!

 

Yes, Sandboxie 5.33.6 works well in Windows 10 Pro 21H2. I use Sandboxie 5.33.6 in combination with Microsoft Defender and VoodooShield!

 

Yes, it is. I don't have any problems running whatever I want to run sandboxed. My W10 version is Home but that shouldn't make a difference, your experience in W10 21H2 should be as mine. Bell, I haven't experienced anything wrong with 5.33.6 in 21H2.



Bo

 

Thank you both for the replies. And have a great 2022!

 

An odd problem popped up today for me.

Nothing has been updated or changed recently for anything.

I use an email alert program called Pop Peeper which has had issues with SBIE in the past.

I have it set as a forced program, and it is also listed under the start/run restrictions.

Today at boot I got a window that said "welcome to Pop Peeper, let's set up your accounts."

The program is not reading the .ini file somehow. I swapped it out with a known good version, same result.

If I take it off the forced program and restriction list, it boots up fine and has my accounts and settings in it.

Something in those settings has caused this issue with nothing changing or updating. Any ideas?

 

Hi g17. I looked at your old posts to get a clue about the SBIE version you are using and found that a few months ago you were using Sandboxie Plus. If you are still using Plus, perhaps your issue is a Sandboxie Plus issue. If this is the case, you ought to post about it in one of the threads related to Plus.

But I ll give you an idea of what to try. Create a new sandbox for Pop and don't choose the option to copy settings from any existing sandbox, also, if if you are using Plus and the program gives you the option to create sandboxes with pre set settings, don't use any of those. You should create the sandbox as unrestricted as possible. Try to make this new sandbox as close as possible as what tzuk had in mind when he created the default settings sandbox. The only settings you should change from default are, adding Pop as a Forced program, and to set the sandbox to delete on closing. Good luck.

Bo

 

I'll try that Bo. I've never used the plus version, always the classic.

 

Yes, what you are using is what is being called Classic but that is still David's version. His version and SBIE 5.33.6 are not the same, this thread is about 5.33.6. . Version 5.33.6 has not changed any since its release.

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/sandboxie-plus-1-0-6.442993/page-3#post-3060090

Try what I suggested. Also, perhaps you ll get better help posting about this issue in one of David's threads instead of this one since the issue is with Classic, not 5.33.6, and who knows, maybe someone else using Classic is also using Pop. I know you did this before, and you didn't get any help but this is probably something to be expected since I doubt that there are many (maybe only you) people using Pop and SBIE.

I cant really help you with this other than remind you of the canned solution I posted earlier. That works more often than not when the issue is related to settings or some sort of sandbox corruption. You said you have experienced issues between the programs in the past but I gather the two ´programs as of recently had been working well alongside. So maybe your current issue has to do with something changing recently in either program by way of an update, this change might be causing a conflict. Important: If in the past, you had to allow Pop direct or Full access to some file outside the sandbox in order for Pop to work properly in the sandbox environment, you have to do this again. Perhaps you must allow this access and you forgot about it.

Bo

 

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/sandboxie-plus-1-0-6.442993/page-3#post-3060137

 

Well, for some reason after a few boots, the thing works again. It's an odd little program I guess.

Best I can figure is, the .ini file with the settings is in a hidden roaming folder, and if the boot order changed and the sandbox was not initiated yet, then those files would not exist to be read as the program started. Thanks guys.

 

guys chrome gets error and it can not update while in a sandboxie... should it be like this?

"An error occurred while checking for updates: Update check failed to start (error code 4: 0x80070005 -- system level)."