Windows Defender Is Becoming the Powerful Antivirus That Windows 10 Needs

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Secondmineboy, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. imdb

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    vs installs and runs its own service, whereas h_c is just a front-end for native win services and settings with no extra/3rd party services to run. ;)
     
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    Yes, but before that it was also discussed about OSA which also has its own service. That's why I referred to VS as a WD strengthening solution
     
  3. Krusty

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    But this thread is about Microsoft Defender. Not about plus OSA or VS.
     
  4. Antarctica

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    Yes you are absolutely right, I'm sorry...:confused:
     
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    Defender Control 1.5 - Open source windows defender disabler
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    Got an update to the Platform just now.

    Here are my current versions in Windows Security/About

    antimalware versions.png

    Hopefully it's all current. Windows 11 build 22000.493

    Edit: according to here, it is. Alrighty then.
     
  7. ams963

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    I am only using WD on my newly built pc. I did not get any malware on my old laptop for years and hopefully the WD will save the day in the future too. Using WD and following a few precautions and tips are all I need.
     
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    Self defense doesn't seem to be a strong point with the free products. Or really most of the U.S. based products.
     
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    Yep. Defender Platform background updated yesterday from 4.18.2111.5-0 to 4.18.2201.10-0 on my Win10 systems.
     
  12. Rasheed187

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    Is it just the free products? I do believe there is a tamper protection option for Win Defender on Win 10/11 but it won't help against these type of blunders obviously. It might help when malware tries to disable WD. But as discussed before in the other topic, I have this feeling that in those big ransomware attacks on companies, they might often succeed in disabling AV's. That's why those attacks are so successful, either that or AV's are still not good enough.
     
  13. xxJackxx

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    No, that's why I followed with the "Or really just most of the U.S. based products." It seems like the Russian products seem to have the best self defense/tamper protection. Or at least historically did. Microsoft has not done a great job of locking down files and registry entries for their own product, especially if another file or executable signed by Microsoft is used to exploit it as they seem to give their own stuff unlimited access to anything on the system. The is one of the better arguments to set UAC at maximum. When I think of all of the exploits I have seen for Notepad where it is used to gain access to things it should not it makes me feel they should have 2 classes of Microsoft signed files on a system. But again, max UAC cuts down on it to a large degree.
     
  14. Rasheed187

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    OK I see what you mean. I do believe that OSArmor is capable of blocking attacks involving so called LOLBins, UAC is too annoying to me.
     
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    Yeah but not really scary at all, since it takes either local access to exploit, or if via remote access, then scripting or powershell, which is easily prevented by augmenting Defender with a 3rd-arty measure of security, including SWH or H_C.

    Yes.

    OSA LOLBins.png
     
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  16. Rasheed187

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    OK I see, then OSArmor should indeed do the trick.
     
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    Microsoft Defender updates its Exclusion permissions
    https://www.onmsft.com/news/microsoft-will-not-let-you-skip-defender-scans-anymore
     
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    Disappointing. If this is all they are doing it likely won't help much. If all they are doing is requiring admin, it is still too open. They need to limit it so these settings can ONLY be accessed by Defender. Otherwise there will still be exploits that will change the settings. Plus any executable that runs as admin.
     
  19. matt6575

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    What is H_C
     
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    Hard_Configurator. It's a windows' setting tweaker/restrictor. It's excellent.
     
  21. Minimalist

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    New Kraken botnet easily fools Windows Defender and steals Crypto wallet data
    https://www.neowin.net/news/beware-...ndows-defender-and-steals-crypto-wallet-data/
     
  22. Antarctica

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    What about «other Antivirus », do they stop this botnet?:thumbd:
     
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    I don't know, there is no info about it in Zerofox's article. Even MD could possibly detect it during download (blocking Smokeloader execution) but IDK what defences are left after it adds itself to exclusions.
     
  24. Antarctica

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    Thank you @Minimalist, yeah I read the article. That was the reason of my question.:)
     
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