Former Opera CEO Launches Vivaldi, A New Browser For Power Users

Is anyone of you guys using the tab-stacking feature? It seems it doesn't always work that well, it's a bit of a hassle for me, don't understand all the hype about it. But in certain cases it might indeed be handy. Vivaldi is the best browser, but I'm missing true innovation. And I wonder if Site Isolation from Chrome is also working in Vivaldi?

https://9to5google.com/2021/07/20/chrome-site-isolation-extensions-android/

 

I don't want to jinx myself but I haven't gotten the dead bird in a long time. Doh I probably shouldn't have said that.

 

Vivaldi 4.1.2369.16
August 6, 2021

Minor update (2) for Vivaldi Desktop Browser 4.1
This update fixes a crash related to our translate feature and fixes some sound issues on Windows.
https://vivaldi.com/blog/desktop/minor-update-2-for-desktop-browser-4-1/

 

I don't know what the hell is going on, but somehow I can't upgrade to Vivaldi 4.0. So currently on my laptop I have installed Vivaldi 3.6, 3.7 and 3.8 and Vivaldi 4.1 did install, but it's nowhere to be found on my disk. Vivaldi should really figure this stuff out. The only reason why I wanted to upgrade is because I wanted to see if they fixed the tab-stacking annoyances.

 

BTW, here are some interesting articles:

https://www.fastcompany.com/90598613/too-many-tabs-vivaldi-two-row-tab-stacking-feature
https://www.wired.com/story/vivaldi-4-2021/

 

I finally blew Vivaldi off and uninstalled it for good on my 8.1 boxes. You will remember myself and some others (and they was on Win 10) running into various issues etc after a long stretch of it fairly stable. The real burden for low end systems like the 8.1's i run was the slow startup.

Since changing over entirely to Chrome Stable 91 then 92 i experience not a single problem either in start up or site/page rendering. In fact on the low end 8.1's it's a very rapid and solidly stable user experience i not known in a long time.

 

Well, it's still running well for me ... maybe the occasional diminutive gremlin ...



No dead avians for a while though (touch wood).

 

Minor update for Vivaldi Android Browser 4.1
August 9, 2021
https://vivaldi.com/blog/mobile/minor-update-android-browser-4-1/

 

Weird, then it was probably the low specs that was causing your problems because Vivaldi is running just fine on both my desktop and laptop. I finally was able to upgrade to Vivaldi 4.1, I think I was doing something wrong, and it's still pretty good with a few improvements here and there. However, tab-stacking is still a mess, all this talk but they can't get it right, I expect better from them.

 

I really don't miss it. It always had that V screen start/show first and seemed strained to load every time. There was the early stages of development it ran great then it went downhill for me. Chrome on the other hand is stunning and with the past several releases runs amazing snappy and with a few extensions like NoScript + UBlockOrigin etc.

 

I've been running Vivaldi for five years on Ubuntu and macOS and I'd definitely miss it if it borked.

 

That explains things. Im 100% certain that it DOES run excellent on MAC and Ubuntu no doubt. ENJOY!

 

It ran fine on Win 7 for me. Vivaldi is a little like its founder's predecessor (Opera ASA) in the fact that it regularly has upgrades where features are constantly added ... and there are new bugs. Which rarely get fixed. I really miss Opera ASA even with all the problems and bugs it had. I think of Vivaldi as continuing that tradition of being a constant beta with great potential someday.



Someday ...

 

Opera was a main go-to on this end too on XP. It was super fast loading pages and rarely ever choked. As for Vivaldi it is likely a better fit on some newer hardware and such but as expected still carries over issues that seem to take awhile getting ironed out.

Even Opera Lite was a nice browser on XP and might even still work reasonably well on 8 and above.

 

I don't think Vivaldi has a large development team. For me, Vivaldi has just the occasional glitch, which eventually gets solved. IMO the 'new' Opera has gone the way of Maxthon. I miss that too.

 

I wish I was more learned on browsers but since a generous portion of our membership here is, I try to brush up on basics and sometimes apply tricks of the trade.

But for the life of me there was no way to stop Vivaldi for me from that V page start-up that always would hang while loading the extensions per sites or tabs simultaneously. But usually no more than 3 or 4 at a time. But even if no tabs was selected the start up was sluggish. Not GPU intensive, but simply sluggish sort of like a prolonged stall.

 

Same over here, I'm having no big issues with Vivaldi, it truly is an amazing browser. It just has a few minor annoyances, like for example when I bookmark a page, I don't want to see the menu that pop's up, because it defeats the purpose of "one click" bookmarking. Plus tab-stacking doesn't work correctly.

And I saw your post in the Apple section, and I also sometimes see weird conflicts between Vivaldi's ad-blocker and uBlock, so now I only use it per site, I have disabled it globally. The weird thing is that it sometimes seems to block even more than uBlock. And BTW, the "periodic tab reload" option is a life saver for me, certain sites will log you out way too quickly.

 

Weird. It could be a hardware problem but I'd be more inclined to to suspect a software glitch or conflict of some sort.

 

Yep, just like Opera ASA.

It's my own fault; I should never have trusted an internal adblocker.

 

Imo the new opera is spyware.

 

Everything is bloody spyware these days.

 

Vivaldi will be very useful for a long time for most everyone who's decided it's best for them in performance and new introductions that the developer adds on subsequent release. In fact my 8 machines would still be running it if not for the absolute stable Chrome recent releases that freed me from the pitfalls constantly plaguing V. Either way it's got some legroom to grow and improve upon.

 

Yes exactly, however something I did notice is that website-rendering is a bit slower compared to Edge, they really should work on this, especially since most websites are dynamically loaded nowadays, so sometimes it's a bit annoying, it seems a bit too slow to load new content. The spell checker should also be improved, but I guess it's the standard one from Chromium.

Well, it's pretty good, it can even remove the blank spaces where normally ads will load, uBlock doesn't seem to do this. But you can't fine tune it, plus it's often being detected by anti-adblockers, Vivaldi should really should improve the internal ad-blocker.

 

Odd, I'm not seeing any placeholders with uBO/uBO Extra. Unless some other extension (Ghostery?) is doing it.

I remember Opera ASA's 'adblocker'. Vivaldi's is better admittedly. I think uBO takes some beating, I wish there was a viable Safari version.

 

Another reason that on 8 machines i absolutely had to find an alternative and Chrome Stable Release as well as Chromium.Sync satisfied all checkboxes on this end with snappy page loading, no stalls whatsover like Vivaldi and overall pleasant browser experience now with good solid security too.