Rollback RX v11.x (Home & Professional)

Hi

What becomes the difference when one installs it on D:, but working on C:, instead of C:, except the obvious.

 

It shouldn't matter where it's installed, only the protected partitions should be affected.

 

Ok.
I was thinking of the snapshot and, well, other data. But they gets saved on C: - then?

 

No, the snapshots aren't "saved" anywhere, they are left in place on their protected volume when the DATA changes and only the pointers (new META DATA) are changed to reflect the placement of the changes. This is one of the things that makes the app potentially dangerous... nothing is actually saved anywhere. When you lose the Rollback database of where those "left in place" snapshots are, you're dead in the water... Windows has no idea of where that DATA is (Rollback purposely hides that information from Windows), only Rollback.

 

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I see these cowboys are still falsely advertising their software in the most misleading way possible, so £22.30 on offer does look very tempting to the people who don't know any better.

There is actual better software that will really save your **** in an emergency.

 

I have used Rollback Rx v10 on Win 10.

I have been using Eazy Fix v11 on Win 10 for a long time.

From my experience, it’s better to use Eazy Fix or Rollback Rx manually (create snapshots manually) or without scheduled tasks.

Since I started using Eazy Fix manually, I have experienced no issues yet.
I manually create, delete, and defrag snapshots.

With manually creating snapshots, I noticed that sometimes the process doesn’t reach 100% but mentions completed successfully. And the snapshot’s details show quality - good. I delete such a snapshot. Such snapshots (in default mode or automatic snapshots creation) could be the reason for restoration and other issues.

It also seems the software is now more robust against system hard shutdown, unexpected shutdown, etc.

 

That is pretty much my experience too, but, i always get a "sense" that the Os is not working right. Sooner with RBRX then with EF. Sfc says no, but when uninstalling, the peculiar odds and ends - disappers.

 

Rollback is dangerous software and people are happy to pay £66.48 for a risky gamble, which their false advertising should be illegal especially "RollBack Rx guarantees 100% bit-level recovery which means a absolute uninstallation of any software or virus"....Tell that to the people who have had their hard drives ruined by that software.

Like seriously if this software was so amazing that big corporations use it then where is the positive reviews for it? It is so amazing that people keep the knowledge of a great piece of software to themselves? Give me a break.

Drive Snapshot costs £33.50 and is reliable with great batch file support....Shadow Defender costs £28.19, which is also a great piece of software......Both pieces of software combined costs £61.69 and still cheaper than Rollback plus they offer much more than spinning a hard drive wrecking roulette wheel.

 

It's a snapshot software not a backup software. So if you look for an backup software this ain't one.
Learned my lesson with this software the hard way. I had to hard shutdown the pc. Rollback didn't work afterwards and the pc was borked (had to reinstall).

 

Many, many users of this software have learned their lesson... the hard way.

 

To install major Windows 10 updates, you can disable RollBack Rx protection in version 11.

There is an option under Advanced Settings "Allow install of Windows Updates that cannot be rolled back."
As per the RollBack Rx online help, " The program will temporarily disable select elements of the software while the updates are running. This prevents the machine from changing the infrastructure of Windows 10 while affecting our software in a negative way."
https://support.horizondatasys.com/...ith-rollback-rx-pro-and-reboot-restore-rx-pro

Any RollBack Rx 11 or Eazy Fix 11 users have the mentioned option enabled and installed the major Windows 10 updates?

 

And let's look at the cold hard facts. After all these what, many years, you mean they still haven't perfected their product that surely by now should be both failproof and totally reliable in any situation.

 

Using this option will work just fine but you need to understand... when "disabling select elements of the software while the updates are running" means snapshots are turned OFF and all existing snapshots will be removed, your System will only have the pre-upgraded state to fall back on after the System upgrade is performed... IF the upgrade doesn't FAIL for you. What actually happens is the RBrx protection is being turned off, snapshots are being removed (leaving you at the current System state), and the System is left unprotected during the Windows upgrade. When the upgrade is completed, protection is turned back on under the upgraded System. It's exactly like uninstalling Rollback RX before the upgrade and re-installing it after the upgrade, except HorizonDataSys is doing the work for you.

If you don't need any of those snapshots or your pre-upgrade System state when you finish a failed upgrade, you're just fine. But if you think about it, how are you protecting yourself against a failed upgrade? The only option available to you at this point is the Windows feature that allows you to go back to a pre-upgrade System state... questionable at best if the upgrade actually fails.

 

Well... (to quote a good friend of mine ) "after all these what, many years," the basic product hasn't changed at all at the protection level so the basic flaws at that protection level remain the same. Why change a good thing...

 

@TheRollbackFrog, thank you for the details.

I have enabled the mentioned option in Eazy Fix. I will try installing the upcoming Windows 10 major update to check Eazy Fix detects the update installation and disables its protection or not.

 

Your a mountain of laughs @TheRollbackFrog - Hey I do have one question I know you have the exactness of the right answer since I not used Easy Fix in eons it seems.

Turning back in time, I recall with Raxco FDISR you were able to move/copy whatever the saved snapshots off to another storage disk. Then return them if that was a preference either back on the same HDD or run it from external i think. Its been a long time. How does that sit with either or both these Rollback programs. If at all.

 

@EASTER - totally different beasts. FDISR actually had a real snapshot (separate DATA kinda like an image) that could be somewhat manipulated. The Rollback RX snapshots are DATA in place (before it was changed) and cannot be separated from the disk sectors where they lie. The only method for capturing RBrx snapshots is by forensically capturing every sector on the disk (all sectors, both used and unused) via an image and saving that image... no other way. Windows hasn't a clue as to the existence of those in place snapshots, only RBrx knows where they are... and only through a pointer DataBase of its own (almost like a separate $MFT for each snapshot captured). That's why the whole disk needs to be in place and untouched... otherwise the snapshot DataBases would be useless.

Hope this helps ... and as much as you'd like to play... DON'T!

 

There actually is a way to change the architecture of RBrx to allow for the capture of snapshots, but it would mean a real Windows integration with Windows understanding that certain disk clusters would not be available when allocating new space for DATA. The speed of RBrx snapshot return would remain, accurate images of current disk data residence could be made by imaging programs (RBrx could even do it) and RBrx could easily image its own snapshots if the user wished to do it.

The application could be reborn... the problem is that original design knowledge has been lost from the companies over the years... only maintenance capability seems to remain at this point. The rebirth would really require a brand new design... and we all know that requires some really sharp software engineers with good inside knowledge of Microsoft Windows guts and APIs.

Could happen, I guess...

 

I wouldn't dream of it if it's that lodged on

 

...and you can easily see that if all those "unknown to Windows" RBrx snapshot data blocks were on a protected SSD, what do you think would happen when Windows issued a TRIM command to that SSD following the deletion of the use of that block?

That's why TRIM had to be disabled by RBrx (done in its special disk driver). They argued (lied?) from 2015 on (to this date, I believe) that the Windows TRIM command is still fully functional. As far as Windows is concerned, it is... as far as the protected SSD is concerned, it never sees that TRIM command issued by Windows. If it did, the snapshot DATA in the SSD would be toast.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oogz7ArMw70

With such a shady pathetic snake oil salesmen (as seen on TV) video like that on their own website promoting their software, would really REALLY expect those cowboys to perfect their "disaster recovery" software?

Rollback Rx should be freeware as charging people money to risk losing their data is immoral.

 

I protest. If it's as horrid and risky as even some of their staunchest user's have attested to, they should release it as Open Source so that some hidden talented freelance developer might could fashion the good parts of it into a workable risk-free rollback system.

 

Am fortunate (at least so far) to be one of the very few lucky ones for whom the Rollback seems (hopefully, but do realise that could come crashing down instantly) to be working perfectly (for the time being). It has the feature, already described in these pages, that allows you to turn it off temporarily. When I do that (after rebooting, as instructed), then I do the housekeeping - images, trims, updates, etc. and then turn the Rollback back on again, Don't know if this will work for really big Windows updates, but am hoping ok. That's all I can tell you, if anyone interested. rgds and thanks. ps: My one complaint is that the instructions file that comes with this is totally out of date; if you follow it you will end up scratching your head.

 

Save your what (no need to be so coy)? What is the 'better software" you refer to? Thanks.