Sandboxie Technologies (SBIE Open source) (VERSION 5.33.6 ONLY!)

If it's Windows 10, then that native application should be already sandboxed
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/secauthz/appcontainer-isolation

 

The issue here is that sandboxie is not compatible with UWP/Modern apps, but those are kept in a sort of own sandbox provided by windows itself.
You will need to use an image viewer that is not a modern app like irfan view for example.

 

@Buster_BSA With no disrespect intended to David, I agree that this thread should be 'frozen' until we know what is happening with Tom. I don't mean that the thread should be closed down, just used so that we can distinguish clearly one software from another and one developer from another. Classic Sandboxie versus Fork.
Personally I would like to see Sandboxie developed 'as is' and this thread remain about that and Tom (for the present).
The other thread for David's 'Plus' product.
I think that there is room for both 'Purists' and 'Forkies' but not in the same thread which is already designated.
Things just get confusing if the two are mixed up.

 

Thanks, the solution worked perfectly.

 

You are welcome, sabi. I am glad to help.

Bo

 

FWIW, clinic. Despite the crashing, I went ahead and did the actual update (over the top) of Foxit, and what I found is that Foxit won't crash as long as you dont change settings or open the menus in the toolbar/UI while running sandboxed. So, if you only use Foxit to open and view PDF files, Foxit should not crash. IMO, something triggers the crash when opening or navigating the menus. Fortunately, for me personally, I usually just use Foxit to open PDF's, nothing ellse, so I ll be fine. Try doing and testing Foxit as I am saying, and perhaps you ll notice the same that I am seeing.

Bo

 

It's unfortunate that Windows 10 introduces some downsides to using Sandboxie. Issues with installing some programs, such as .msi installers, the new apps not working as previously mentioned, and also running the file explorer sandboxed causes it to look blurry (probably some dpi scaling issue) and it also strangely changes the icons used for drives and the pc, they now face forward instead of pointing left.

 

Hi sabi. Other than not being able to run sandboxed msi installers, Sandboxie does work pretty well in W10. You just moved to W10, I have ben using W10 for a little more than 3 years now. I can tell you this, when I first got my W10, I expected to experience a lot of issues. I expected to have issues because of what some people were saying, but the truth of the matter is that using Sandboxie in W10 has been a delight. Basically, what I found from day one is Sandboxie behaving very well in W10. No major issue. So, I think you will enjoy SBIE in your W10.

Universal apps not being compatible with SBIE it has always being like that. I know some people like the Store and using Store apps. But me personally, that part of the computer is like it doesnt exist. Until about a year and a half ago, part of my routine was to (even though I don't use any) update the apps once in a while. Now I dont even do that. I don't touch the apps. I think it is healthier for the computer. I used to update them because I thought it was the proper thing to do but now I believe the opposite.

Regarding the icons when running File Explorer sandboxed, for me they look the same, sandboxed or unsandboxed. Top picture is unsandboxed.





Bo

 

Here are the comparison shots on my computers, top is unsandboxed, bottom is sandboxed. Notice how the sandboxed Explorer is blurry and the scaling is off (not sure if the blurriness can be properly seen in the attachments). Also note the icons on the left hand side.

 

I see what you mean. If you are using a third party program to make changes in File Explorer, that could be causing the different look in icons, blurriness, etc, you see when you run Explorer sandboxed..

Also, I know I read somewhere (not in this forum) some users reporting seeing glitches with icons in W10. this is recent. I never seen my icons appearing in a way that they are not supposed to, but I remember there are/were more than a few people seeing this abnormalities in the icons (the conversation was about the same icons you are talking about, this was unrelated to SBIE). Unsandboxed, your This PC icon and the C Drive icon looks different than mine. FWIW, the end result of that thread/conversation was that this was nothing to worry about.

Bo

 

Is it possible the cleartype tuner settings are wiped out in the sandbox somehow? Longshot and no idea why it would happen but maybe try running that utility and see what happens. cttune.exe

Every time I run that, I think about Steve Gibson and reading about sub pixel font rendering from many years ago. I think it was used on the original Macs.

 

Stapp, this worked beautifully for me with Vivaldi and I suppose I could use it for chrome but is there any way to play with the Quick launch to have more than one browser working that way?

 

Beethoven, you can create sandboxed shortcuts for each of your Chromium based browsers. Read here for instructions:

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...-sbie-open-source.428156/page-25#post-2958628

When you are done with instructions above, change the path in the Target.

After creating shortcuts, you can move them to your taskbar. You can also set up the shortcuts so the browser opens up in its own dedicated sandbox. Here:

https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...-sbie-open-source.428156/page-20#post-2954996

Bo

 

Bo, I had done all of that in the past and it worked well but that was before the chrome engine change. Since I am still using Version 5.33.6, my old shortcuts do not work anymore. I also use right click on the task bar icon, run any program, enter chrome or firefox when choosing to run the browser in a special sandbox. That now works for Firefox but chrome keeps crashing. So I followed the other instructions via sandboxie shortcut for Vivaldi and while this works with Vivaldi being the default under quick launch , I would like the option to easily open multiple browsers at the same time. At the moment I am using Vivaldi as my default and chrome for other stuff.

 

Are you Chrome 86.x?
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Target: "C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Start.exe" /box:Chrome chrome.exe --no-sandbox --test-type"
Start in: "C:\Program Files (x86)\Google\Chrome\Application"
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Maybe, try 5.43.6 -

 

If you have the old shortcuts, then its simpler. All you have to do is change the target (Click Properties in the shortcut) in the old shortcut to the correct path (doing this is what fixes the issue). I don't have Chrome, but the one written by bjm (above) should work for you if you run Chrome in a sandbox that's named Chrome.

If you have Edge, this path should work for you in a sandbox thats named Edge:

"C:\Program Files\Sandboxie\Start.exe" /box:Edge msedge.exe --no-sandbox --test-type"

Your other solution is as suggested by bjm, update to 5.43.6. I know he is using it, and all is well.

Bo

 

Hi Bo, hi everyone using SBIE!

I have a (familiar) problem again - supposed "leaing", but this time with Firefox. I have a brand new office laptop with Windows 10 Pro x64, AV is Windows' Defender. I installed Sandboxie (last official Sophos version) and here's what happens - if someone can reproduce.

I open Firefox OUTSIDE of SBIE, go to Youtube, only to click on No Thanx (just to stop it aksing me to log in every time I visit Youtube under SBIE). I don't do anything else, I don't search for anything or click on any video. I close Firefox.

Then, I open Firefox IN SBIE, as I always do. I go to Youtube, I search for something specific and click on a video. Then I close Firefox, sandbox terminates and deletes/empties, as always.

Then, I open Firefox IN SBIE again, go to Youtube - and stuff I searched for is there + all the suggestions related to it. So why is that so? Can you reproduce?

 

@Bellzemos
Does your Firefox Options Remember History?
Does your Firefox Options Clear History on close?
Does your Firefox sandbox allow direct access to History?

 

Hi bjm_, thank you for the reply!

My Firefox does rememebr history, yes. That's how I always set my Firefox and Firefox sandbox.
I don't think it clears historty on closure by itself - Sandboxie deletes the folder right after I terminate sandbox and should clear everything.
My Firefox sandbox does not allow direct access to anything but the phishing database.

 

You write > My Firefox does remember history, yes. That's how I always set my Firefox and Firefox sandbox. < sounds like you do allow direct access to Firefox history.
You write > My Firefox sandbox does not allow direct access to anything but the phishing database. < sounds like you do not allow direct access to Firefox history.

Try clear history on close and test.
FWIW ~
my Firefox History Settings ~

Spoiler: my Firefox History Settings

my Firefox sandbox ~

Spoiler: my Firefox sandbox

as test ~

Spoiler: as test

Recent History from my running Firefox sandbox

> close Firefox
Recent History from my running Firefox sandbox

 

Hi,

sorry yeah I put it weird. So, my histroy is saving - but only in the Firefox settings. Not in Sandbox settings. In the sandbox settings there is only acces to the phishing database, nothing else.

So, I tried clearing FF history as you suggested. I did it in a sandboxed FF, one step a time (first tried only Cache, then only Browsing etc.). When I cleared Cookies, the Youtube suggestions (of my searches) were gone. And the Youtube login nag was back.

Then I closed the sandboxed FF (termination + deletion). Then I opened FF sandboxed again, went to Youtube and my suggestions were there again (which IS normal, as what happens in SBIE shouldn't go out to the real system).

My problem persists though...

 

Just a short confirmation:
I can reproduce it, having the same configuration for Firefox and Sandboxie as you, I think.

(Personally I do not regard it as a problem but I understand your concern.)

So obviously it has to do with the cookies. It seems that if a cookie was set outside of Sandboxie it receives and saves all information, either coming from a session outside or inside Sandboxie (as long as you keep this cookie). I think that experts for cookies can tell us more.

 

Hmm....I do not see YouTube Login prompt. I do not see YouTube suggestions. I do not see Recent History from previous sandbox session.
Note:
I do not allow direct access to phishing database and I do block all third party cookies.

Spoiler: my Browser Privacy

I run uBlock Origin and Malwarebytes Browser Guard.

Spoiler: before sandbox & after sandbox

Firefox is not my daily rider...so, may not be familiar with your concern/s. Sorry

 

Thank you both for looking into it.

@ Bjm_ - I see, I'd think that's probably so because you block all the third party cookies (?), I don't know for sure...

@ Peter 123 - I think you are right that it's about the cookies... I hope a cookie expert appears and enlightens us. But I don't think that it worked like that before, I could be wrong... How can it save as an outside cookie if a cookie comes from inside of a sandbox?

 

ever since chrome updated to 86, nothing will open in sbie, even chrome's settings page.
win10pro64 v2004 sbie 5.33.3