Sandboxie Technologies (SBIE Open source) (VERSION 5.33.6 ONLY!)

Discussion in 'Sandboxie (SBIE Open Source) Plus & Classic' started by bo elam, Apr 22, 2020.

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  1. Rasheed187

    Rasheed187 Registered Member

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    Let's hope that Vivaldi will be able to fix this! And of course I also hope that other Chromium browsers will continue to work. Luckily, old versions of Vivaldi work just fine, I don't always see the need to update. Also, would be interesting to see if the developer of Sandboxie Plus would be able to fix this.

    Same here for me. Luckily, on Win 8.1 Sandboxie has always worked great, and I didn't even have to update it that much even under Sophos. The risk lies of course with future updates for Win 10 and browsers that may become incompatible.

    I was thinking, shouldn't we interest other companies like NoVirusThanks (EXE Radar) or Datpol (SpyShelter) to get involved with this project? Let's say you would have 5000 paying customers that pay a yearly fee of 25 euro, that's a revenue of 125000 euro. And they wouldn't even have to develop it from scratch. Of course Tom can hopefully also play a role if he wants to.
     
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    Well, this thread is already 17 pages long, but the last meaningful post of his was this, I suppose, and nothing thereafter--maybe I missed something?
    https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thr...s-sbie-open-source.428156/page-2#post-2917128
    So, this 5.4x.x/6.xx.x version is in limbo, it's sort of just hanging there. I would regain a little hope if Vivaldi comes out with an update that restores compatibility w/SBIE. Plus, it's been open source long enough to where if an entity had interest, it would have been manifested by now, I believe.
     
  3. Ti4

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    Dear Bo elam, hi all there,

    Im new here and I hope I can get help with the following problem of sandboxie:

    at August - Sep. 2020 there was a big automatically uptdate of microsoft at my computer
    64 bit version, Win10, Sandboxie 64- 53 3-3

    since that time I couldn´t clear the defaultbox it appears:
    Start.exe/box: _https://www sandboxie.com
    than appears: php? SBIE 2313
    and Start.exe/box.default box delete_sandboxie

    I tried to turn of the firewall and avira and to over-install sandboxie
    but it hat no success

    I would be very glad if someone could help me.

    Ti4
     
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    No, no, I meant in response to Rasheed's idea that perhaps NVT or Datpol would get involved w/Sandboxie. :)

    Do I know that Herr DavidXanatos is undertaking this incredible and challenging task? Why yes I do. :thumb: Apologies for being too vague.
     
  6. bo elam

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    Hi Ti4. The good news is that you shouldn't be having any major problems if you are on Windows 10 2004 Build 19041.508 and using Sandboxie 5.33.6.

    So, if the Windows updates you did in August-Sept 2020 brought your Windows 10 installation up tp 19041.508, you ought to update to SBIE 5.33.6.

    Here is the link to get the installer.

    Announcing Sandboxie 5.33.6 release and open source update - Sandboxie Forum (Read Only) - Sandboxie (Read Only) - Sophos Community
    The explanation for Sandboxie message 2313 (the one you are getting, read Message explanation in link below) kind of makes it sound like a security program is interfering with Sandboxie. So, that's probably why Sandboxie can not work properly in your computer.

    https://sandboxie-website-archive.github.io/www.sandboxie.com/SBIE2313.html

    Perhaps try disabling Avira first, if doing that still doesn't allow you over the top install SBIE 5.33.6, then you should uninstall Avira to see if doing that allows you to install 5.33.6.

    If you are able to reinstall Sandboxie and delete contents after uninstalling Avira, then you ll have to make a choice between Avira and Sandboxie, if Sandboxie is important to you, then perhaps it ll be best if you switch AV to something that's working well with SBIE at this time. FWIW, I think I read not long ago someone else reporting conflicts between SBIE and Avira. Also, Windows defender has worked well with SBIE for many years.

    Bo
     
  7. Moose World

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    Hey there,

    Options,
    Work very well with Kaspersky Security Cloud and VoodooShield
    ,no conflicts......
     
  8. JAUN

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    I don't know if this is the right thread for an issue I'm having running the 5.33.6 where I can't open Windows Explorer without it crashing. The actual error message is SBIE2224 Sandboxed program has crashed: explorer.exe [DefaultBox] but it doesn't really help as it seems to be a fairly generic message.

    I've uninstalled/reinstalled Sandboxie trying version 5.33.3 as well (making sure to remove all settings). I've tried different antivirus settings and providers (Bitdefender to Windows Defender to F-Secure to nothing) so that doesn't seem to be the issue. I'm running an nVidia graphics card (GT1030) which has been mentioned as a possible factor in other error messages but I don't see how this would affect Windows Explorer specifically as I can run any other program without problems.

    It's getting to be a real pain because it also affects any Sandboxed programs where I need to open a file/folder as this also then causes it to crash just by trying to navigate to a file on the system. Would appreciate any suggestions?
     
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    Hi Bo !

    thank you very much for your link and soon answer
    but the defaultbox didn´t clear yet

    What did I done?
    I controlled the Windows 10 version ist was exactly right that you described
    I turned off the firewall, win defender,
    than I installed the new sandboxie version of your link
    the installing was no problem

    but clearing the defaultbox was still not possible
    than I de-installed avira
    made everytime a newstart of the computer
    It didn´t work

    I installed avira again to save the PC

    I looked for the link you sent me - I think it comes from something of the windows big update I told you - Avira wasn´t it

    whent I want to clear the defaultbox than appears:
    - SBIE 2313 couldn´t run start.exe (740)
    - Sandboxie Start.exe. failed (you need higher rights) (!!) I tried to do it with the administrator setting - but it didn´t work
    - Start.exe/ box: DefaultBox delete_sandbox

    is it perhaps possible to clear the defaultbox "by hand" when I delete it in the Windows- programm?
    or will sandboxie damaged through this ?

    do you have any idea?

    many greetings from germany
    Ralf
     
  11. bo elam

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    Usually, antiviruses or other security programs are what causes problems with Sandboxie deleting sandbox contents.

    You can manually delete the sandbox folder by navigating to C:\Sandbox via File Explorer. Right click the folder for the Sandbox you want to delete and choose Delete.

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    If you still have issues deleting the sandbox, then you should reboot the computer and try again.

    Bo
     
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    Hi JAUN. I just tried opening File Explorer, it opens and works fine for me.

    I suggest you try using a separate sandbox for File Explorer, and create a new sandbox if you are already using a separate sandbox. Dont change Default settings in the new sandbox, other than setting it to delete automatically.

    Bo
     
  13. stapp

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    Re Vivaldi latest build and Sandboxie 5.336.
    I heard back from the Vivaldi devs who asked me to try Edge beta channel version which has the latest Chrome beta build and see if Sbie works with it.
    I downloaded, and ran it first to check it worked. (It didn't overwrite latest stable new Edge and you don't need to be running Microsoft Insider)
    I then opened it under Sandboxie, it opened but I couldn't get it to do anything such as browse to a site or adjust settings.

    If anyone else would like to confirm this please go ahead.
    I have a feeling this may be then end of the road for Chromium browsers and Sbie 5.33.6

    https://www.microsoftedgeinsider.com/en-us/
     
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    Just checked Edge in Sandboxie 5.33.6 and received notice, "Could not Hook CM_Add_Driver_PackageW(33,1655)" of which I hid and Edge ran OK in Sandboxie. Checked various sites and played part of a video and all was OK. That driver notice might be concerning though. Anyway, Firefox is my main browser and no problems with it in Sandboxie.
     
  15. stapp

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    Stable Edge in Sandboxie 5.33.6 works fine.
    Are you saying you were able to get Edge Beta running in Sbie?
     
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    wilderssecurity.com outside sandbox
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    wilderssecurity.com inside new default sandbox = blank page
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    5.33.6 + W10 Home 1909
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    edge://settings/ inside sandbox = blank page
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  17. stapp

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    @bjm_
    Interesting. Did you do anything different?
    I shall try again !
     
  18. stapp

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    Also was Edge set as default?
     
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    I thought I was confirming @stapp re Edge Beta here #413

    Edit: same as #416 with 5.43.5 overwritten 5.33.6
    as always, your mileage may vary
     
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    I run Google Chrome as default -
     
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    Well I've had another go and although I can open the Edge beta sandboxied I cannot do anything with it. If I enter BBC etc it shows me it in the dropdown but cllciking on it it just says Bing (In fact everything I try just says Bing!!!)
    I have tried new Sandboxes etc but nothing seems to make it work **sigh**
    Thanks for the feedback.
     
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    Yes, also confirming - w 5.43.5
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    Hoping this is not the end of the road for Chromium browsers and Sbie -
     
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  23. stapp

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    It's beginning to look like it is.
     
  24. DavidXanatos

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    I don't think so...
    But it may be needed to disable many build in browser security features like own sand boxing etc...
    idk. yet if the trade off would be beneficial.

    Yet an other reason to focus more on generic application and game virtualization than on the browser sand-boxing aspect.
     
  25. stapp

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    Browser sandboxing using Sandboxie has always been my main usage. Not really a gamer.
    First Vivaldi will go and then new Edge:(
    Very sad.
    On the bright side (if there is one) Shadow Defender still works.
     
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