AMD Zen 3 Architecture: Ryzen 4000 ‘Vermeer’ CPUs to Feature Huge Performance Upgrade

guest · Dec 29, 2019

AMD Zen 3 CPUs Allegedly Features 17% IPC Gain Over Zen 2 Architecture, Ryzen 4000 ‘Vermeer’ CPUs to Feature Huge Performance Upgrade Over Ryzen 3000
December 27, 2019
https://wccftech.com/amd-zen-3-ryzen-4000-epyc-milan-cpu-17-percent-ipc-gain-rumor/

AMD will soon be announcing its Zen 3 core architecture for Ryzen 4000 and EPYC Milan CPUs. The Zen 3 architecture is expected to bring a huge performance update and reports have emerged that show that Zen 3 would be bringing a significant, double-digit IPC uplift over Zen 2 architecture that is featured 3rd Gen Ryzen and EPYC Rome CPUs.
AMD Ryzen 4000 CPUs with Zen 3 Cores Allegedly Feature 50% Increase in Floating Point, 17% Increase in IPC Performance
The key features of the Zen 3 cores would be the architecture itself which would be receiving a big upgrade over Zen 2. According to AMD themselves, the Zen 3 design brings an entirely brand new CPU architecture, Significant IPC Gains and Faster clocks than ever seen before.

The AMD Ryzen 4000 CPUs and X670 platform is expected to arrive by the end of 2020 since AMD just recently finished their Ryzen 3000 line
There's even a new roadmap shared by Red Gaming Tech which seems to point out to AMD's CPU release plans up till 2022.
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As for the core count, AMD wants to keep pushing the boundaries with future Zen architectures including Zen 3. Just like Zen 2 doubled the core count of Zen, offering up to 64 cores and 128 threads, Zen 3 would also drive higher core counts with improved nodes.
TSMC's 7nm+ process node which is made using EUV technology delivers 10% better efficiency than its 7nm process while offering 20% more transistor density than the 7nm node.

Given how well AMD Ryzen 3000 CPUs compete against Intel's 9th Generation lineup, in just one more generation, AMD would definitely be the IPC leader in the mainstream and HEDT desktop market, considering Intel isn't bringing 10nm anytime soon to their desktop products.
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guest · May 19, 2020

AMD’s Next Generation Zen 3 ‘Vermeer’ Desktop CPUs Leaked, Expected To Launch In September
May 19, 2020
https://wccftech.com/amds-next-gene...-cpus-leaked-expected-to-launch-in-september/

AMD's next-generation, Zen 3 based, CPU lineup for desktop, codenamed Vermeer, has just leaked out. So this is a combined leak from Igor and Videocardz. Igor recently posted a bunch of details about AMD's upcoming Ryzen 4000 series for desktop - Vermeer - and WhyCry supplemented the leak with his own information.
AMD's Ryzen 4000 'Vermeer' lineup for desktop is an absolute powerhouse: Zen 3 based CPUs with up to 16 cores / 32 threads on the AM4 socket
We have already heard some extremely tantalizing things about Vermeer including a huge IPC gain and the iterative performance far outpacing Intel's 14nm on both compute and gaming sides. Vermeer will be manufactured on TSMC's 7nm process (likely EUV) and will be a big step up from current generation Zen 2 processors.

Vermeer will not feature an iGPU and will, of course, be based on Zen 3 cores.
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So once again, we are seeing a total of 5 OPNs leaked. Three of these are 8-core based parts and two of these are 16-core based parts.
For the 8 core parts, the three listed variants have a clock speed of up to 4.6 GHz. Interestingly, the base clock is set to 4.0 GHz - which is a pretty big number and should help in general speed up and responsiveness in general use. One variant has a maximum turbo of 4.4 GHz and 3.8 base clock.

The 16 core parts aren't lacking in frequency either. Both parts can clock up to 4.6 GHz and have a base clock of 3.7 GHz.
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guest · Jun 17, 2020

Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs not arriving until 2021, claims report
Not according to AMD
June 16, 2020
https://www.techspot.com/news/85647-ryzen-4000-desktop-cpus-not-arriving-until-2021.html

Rumor mill: Are we going to see the Zen 3-based Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs this year? AMD says we will, but a new report claims the chips won’t arrive until early 2021.

The report comes from DigiTimes, which has a real hit-and-miss record with these sort of rumors, so take it all with a heavy dose of salt. The article has been translated by leaker RetiredEngineer.
The alleged main reason why AMD is holding back the Ryzen 4000 CPUs is simply because the Ryzen 3000 series continues to sell in droves— [...]

“AMD is extending its life cycle, and definitely will not be launching the next-gen Ryzen 4000 series, based on Zen3 architecture and using TSMC's 7nm EUV process, in Sep.,” states the translated report.
AMD has on several occasions said that Zen 3 and RDNA 2 will arrive later this year [...] AMD won’t feel the need to rush out the Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs, giving it more time to perfect the processors.
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guest · Jun 17, 2020

mood said: ↑

Ryzen 4000 desktop CPUs not arriving until 2021, claims report June 16, 2020
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Rumor has been debunked:
AMD Allegedly Delaying Ryzen 4000 Series ‘Zen 3’ CPUs To 2021 [Updated]
June 17, 2020
https://wccftech.com/amd-allegedly-delaying-ryzen-4000-series-zen-3-cpus-to-2021/

Update 6/17/2020: AMD has debunked this rumor in a statement to TechPowerUp. Vermeer and Zen 3 CPUs will be coming on time:

AMD in an official briefing call with us confirmed that the company's "Zen 3" client processors are on-track for launch within 2020. This refutes rumors that "Zen 3" based Ryzen processors had been delayed to 2021 in favor of giving the upcoming Ryzen 3000XT reign over the rest of the year.
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In the call, AMD told us that the information about "Zen 3" launching in 2020 is not under embargo, and so here we are. An AMD spokesperson told us that "the rumor on Zen 3 delay is inaccurate."
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guest · Sep 18, 2020

AMD Next Generation ‘Vermeer’ Processors To Be Called Ryzen 5000 Series, May Max Out At 12 Cores Instead Of 16
September 17, 2020
https://wccftech.com/amd-next-generation-vermeer-processors-to-be-called-ryzen-5000-series/

According to a leak by an unknown source (via Videocardz), AMD will be utilizing 5000 series naming instead of 4000 series naming for its upcoming Zen-3 based Vermeer series of processors.

This is something that makes a lot of sense considering AMD already has Ryzen 4000 series on mobility (Renoir) and OEM desktop (also Renoir) so marketing Vermeer as 4000 as well would just be bad marketing. It would be much better to align both the next generation Desktop and Mobility parts under the 5000 Series banner.
AMD Vermeer flagship Ryzen 9 5900X will allegedly max out at 12 cores
The leaker also states that the OPN part numbers we already know may actually max out at 12 cores instead of the 16 previously leaked by Igor. Since this is the first time we are hearing from this source this is clearly rumor territory and has been marked as such.
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Here is where things get interesting, according to Patrick, these alleged 16 core parts are actually 12 core/24 thread parts. Both parts can clock up to 4.6 GHz and have a base clock of 3.7 GHz. All of the OPNs mentioned have the A0 revision which means that you are looking at very early engineering samples and will feature a unified L3 cache.
In case you are wondering, the primary difference between Renoir for Desktop and Vermeer for Desktop is that the former is an APU platform while the latter is a CPU-only platform

Vermeer will be manufactured on TSMC's 7nm process (likely EUV) and will be a big step up from current generation Zen 2 processors. It looks like nothing can stop AMD's rise to dominance in the x86 market.
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guest · Nov 6, 2020

AMD has Ryzen up to beat Intel with its new Zen 3 CPUs
AMD takes the performance crown from Intel
November 6, 2020
https://www.theverge.com/21552336/amd-zen-3-ryzen-review-roundup-5950x-intel-comparison

AMD has beaten Intel’s performance advantage in desktop PCs with its new Ryzen 5000 series CPUs. That’s the verdict from a range of reviewers this week that have been testing AMD’s flagship $799 Ryzen 9 5950X with its 16 cores and 32 threads. Even the entry level Ryzen 5 5600X offers some impressive performance at just $299.

AMD’s Ryzen 9 5950X steals the performance crown from Intel in gaming in most tests. Tom’s hardware has the 5950X beating Intel’s Core i9-10900K comfortably in an average of eight games at 1080p and 1440p.
Anandtech saw similar gaming performance results, with the 5950X beating the i9-10900K in the majority of its gaming tests at a variety of resolutions. HotHardware also put the 5950X up against the i9-10900K in a variety of gaming benchmarks, and it came out on top in almost all of them. Digital Foundry found some games are friendlier to Intel processors [...]
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Anandtech concluded that “it’s hard to believe the extent to which some of AMD’s performance numbers have grown in the last five years.” The site was also able to verify AMD’s claims of a 19 percent raw IPC gain, an incredible jump from Zen 2 chips.
These performance bumps are even more impressive when you look at the $299 Ryzen 9 5600X. [...] looks like it will deliver impressive performance at incredible value.
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