Survey Predicts the Rise of Windows 7 Zombies

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    Survey Predicts the Rise of Windows 7 Zombies
    Nearly a quarter of respondents expect their organization to run Windows 7 machines after the official end of support
    June 2, 2019

    https://www.itprotoday.com/industry-perspectives/survey-predicts-rise-windows-7-zombies
     
  2. bellgamin

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    I still run XP on my desktop computer, & Win7 on 1 of my laptops. Win 10? No. Maybe Win 11 -- it's due out soon right? Right? No! Oh, gee whiz. :(
     
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    - I think it is also a matter of being able to afford the move to Windows 10. I think that those organisations need new computers to be able to run Windows 10.
    - I face the same dilemma. I also need a new laptop/system to be able to run Windows 10. Haven't made up my mind yet. Perhaps I will buy a second hand laptop.
     
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    There's always Linux ...
     
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    This kind of post seems to ignore the fact that Linux is NOwhere near to being as user-friendly as Windows. It still is heavily based on command line -- the joy of nerds but not so easily learnable by one's spinster Aunt Posey. Every time I tested a distro, the initial screen appeared with microscopically small text -- a minor issue but it clearly demonstrates that they still haven't dumbed-down Linux sufficiently for acceptance by a mass market.

    As to forums for learning from other Linux users, the ones I have visited seemed heavily populated by denizens who were arrogant & aloof toward newbies. To a much lesser degree, the same is often true for Linux advocates here at Wilders.
     
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    I've been using Ubuntu for years and I rarely use the terminal. The Ubuntu forums, in my experience (I've been a member for ten years), are very helpful and friendly. I know bugger all about computers, especially Linux, yet I manage OK. And I'm probably way more stupid than Aunt Posey.

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    I suppose it depends on the distro.
     
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    Oh yeah, I hope I didn't come across as too fanboy lol.
     
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    Linux is almost as simple as Windows once installed, Terminal isn't much worst than Windows' cmd.

    The problem with Linux is the atroce terminology, way too geeky.

    Come on sda0, sda1, sdb, etc.. (instead of simple letters or words ) was a big interrogation when I was doing my first Linux installation, what the hell they were thinking...
     
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    Windows 10 will run well on pretty much any computer that came with Windows 7 pre-installed and it is still free to upgrade.
     
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    I also get real annoyed at people who constantly suggest Linux as a solution to windows problems. IT ISN'T. I couldn't run Linux if I wanted to, it just won't run the software I need.
     
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    - The biggest problem is whether or not the Win7 drivers and other software I frequently use (and love) will work on a Win10 system. The support website for my system states that the system drivers haven't been tested on a Win10 system.
     
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    It is. It was a perfect solution for me anyway. Ubuntu totally transformed my Belnea laptop that had originally run Vista. Admittedly it was under powered and only had 1Gb of RAM, but it ran well with Ubuntu.

    Perhaps you could use other software, just an idea. If your hardware is getting long in the tooth and getting less compatible with newer Windows OS's Linux is a viable solution. Yes, you will need to adapt. Yes, you may have to learn how to use alternative software.

    Otherwise you may have to stay with zombie OS's, which is problematical in itself as eventually other software (especially browsers) won't be compatible.

    Don't get real annoyed at people, get Linux.

    Or take up yoga.
     
  13. Peter2150

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    My friend you have blinders on. My hardware is hardly long in the tooth, and yes eventually I will have to go Windows 10, but not yet. And no there is no comparable linux software pure and simple. Let me repeat in case you don't get it. There is no alternative software. PERIOD!

    So no I won't get linux and i may not get annoyed, but i would remind you that spamming non linux theads with linux all the time could cause your posts to be removed as off topic
     
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    I doubt that I'm the one with the blinders here. I am not spamming a 'non-Linux' thread (well, probably not) but merely suggesting an alternative to running a zombie operating system.

    I had the same dilemma with Vista. It was either run it as a zombie with all the increasing compatibility problems, chance an upgrade to Win 7 (which was on its way out), or find an alternative.

    I'm pretty sure that a lot of people are going to run Win 7 as a zombie, principally as it was a greatly liked OS (even I liked it). I had to run Win 7 for over a year without updates. Not exactly zombie, but definitely unpatched. MS may have claimed to have fixed the updating problem but it didn't happen for me.

    Inevitably I replaced the older hardware with an iMac. Many will not or cannot just upgrade their hardware though. There will be concerns about driver compatibility with Win 10 and even whether older hardware will be able to run it. Although these concerns can equally apply to Linux. The difference, and basically my main point, is that some Linux distros are specifically aimed at running on older hardware.

    My guess is that it will be businesses and institutions that will predominantly run Win 7 zombies as the overall expenditure of hardware upgrading (if necessary) will be prohibitive.

    There is always an alternative. FULL STOP!
     
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    You don't Windows 10 drivers from your PC manufacturer. Windows itself will be able to find and install the majority, if not all of the needed drivers. For any missing drivers, you should be able to find Windows 10 drivers with a Google search, or driver update software. I'm running Windows 10 on two 13 year old laptops, with one of them running the latest build, so you shouldn't have any issues with hardware support.

    I've upgraded plenty of computers from Windows 7 to 10 and other than about two instances, everything went well and Windows 10 ran just as well, if not better than Windows 7. Just about everything that runs on Windows 7 will run on Windows 10.
     
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    This camp sits quietly overjoyed with 8.1 since it's everything one would like with Windows running smooth as a kitten but without the myriad distortions that Windows 10 burps up, from updates to upgrades to running resource hogs in the background and likely even more svchost.exe processes galore etc.

    How long will it last?
     
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    - Interesting. That's very encouraging. When I have some more time then I will have a serious look at what is needed for a transition from Win7 to Win10 on my laptop.
     
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    I can confirm most of what roger said. Win 10 installs most of the drivers needed at install.
    A reboot afterwards and then asking for a manual update in Win Updates, usually finishes off installing some that may have not gotten installed first time around.
    Also if you look in Reliability History after the install it will show you which drivers it installed.
    I've not have many hardware issues going up from 7 to 10 on machines.
     
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    You know you can still upgrade for free using the media creation tool, right?
     
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    "Windows 7 Users Aren't Hurrying to Upgrade...

    In a report published by NetMarketShare, the data reveals that Microsoft's entire Windows platform barely shifted between January and February. Specifically, Windows 7 lost less than 1 percent of market share to sit at 25.2 percent. Its adoption rate continues to hold up even after Microsoft ended support earlier this year..."

    https://in.pcmag.com/ultrabooks-review/135353/windows-7-users-arent-hurrying-to-upgrade

    https://netmarketshare.com/operatin...9-03","dateEnd":"2020-02","segments":"-1000"}
     
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    - I am also not in a hurry to move from Win7 to Win10.
     
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    A friend is still on WinXP and he's not moving. He was on Win98 ten years ago and switched to WinXP.
     
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