Windows Defender Is Becoming the Powerful Antivirus That Windows 10 Needs

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by Secondmineboy, Jan 30, 2016.

  1. roger_m

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    You really can't take too much notice of performance ratings, as performance for security software varies so much from one computer to the next. For example, while I agree with some of results, I disagree with others. For example, I think Panda should be much further to the left. Some people find WD to be fairly light and others including myself, find it be too heavy for their liking, but I would definitely not rank it last in terms of performance.
     
  2. anon

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    In terms of performance, the last two years WD improved or Avira worsen?
     
  3. shmu26

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    You are pointing out WD's weak side: if you have a folder packed full of tons of software, that folder will show the icons slowly. But most people aren't opening such folders all day long, they are doing other things, for which WD is usually quite light and zippy.
     
  4. Bertazzoni

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    Precisely my experience!
     
  5. Osaban

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    You could be right, but your emphasis quoting my post should have been extended to MY COMPUTERS, as roger pointed out in post #2101, those performance charts do not reflect real impact for every machine out there.

    Avira has been always very light on my machines, and as I mentioned over the last 2 years it was easy for me to check Win Defender foot print in relation to Avira. As of October 4, I see no change in system speed using WD...
     
  6. fossewayfella

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    As a newbie to Wilders and looking into the various forums, this one took my interest. The problem is that there are so many previous posts that I do not have the time to read through them all, so that I feel that posting something might get the reply, "that info has already appeared on this thread in 1986 " (only joking, but it was 2016 when it first appeared)".
    Don't you have a system where you have a back library for referral, and put threads into there, after they have obviously run their time out?

    However, This is sometimes it may be worth repeating, as threads go off the original themes, and may be useful ...So here goes.

    If you have Windows 10 ( I am not sure if this works with other versions, I think not), WD will work alongside your favourite and trusted AV and will, as in my case, not cause any problems. I run Kasp Premium and WD and so far all is well..
    I throw myself into the arena to be eaten.

    fosseway
     
  7. anon

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    You run Kasp Premium in real-time and WD on-demand.
    https://www.tenforums.com/antivirus...99-windows-defender-anti-virus-softwarea.html
     
  8. itman

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    When a third party AV solution is installed on Win10, WD by default is "turned off." That is the WD engine process is not loaded at boot time.

    As mentioned previously, you can manually enable WD periodic scanning via the WD Security Center. This allows WD to perform a daily scan on select vulnerable system and app areas. Note this is an off-line scan. The problem with this option is the WD engine is loaded at boot time and remains running eating up system memory although it is only used once a day.

    Finally in Win 10 1809, Microsoft will force WD to run in realtime mode with all functionality enabled when a third party AV solution is deployed that does not use the Win 10 ELAM driver and secures itself as a protected process. Assumed this does not apply to the Kaspersky Premium product you are using.
     
  9. __Nikopol

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    couldn't you just enable WD realtime with a group policy and both will be on?
     
  10. Krusty

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    Why would anyone want two AVs running together anyway?
     
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    Paranoids, very common in security forums.
     
  12. stapp

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    I doubt fossewayfella is paranoid guest.
     
  13. shmu26

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    Like the others have said, once you install your favorite AV, Windows Defender is smart enough to turn itself off, and that's good. You don't want two AVs running at the same time with real-time protection.

    If you want Windows Defender to do an occasional scan, despite the fact that your favorite AV is providing the real-time protection, you have that option.
     
  14. fossewayfella

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    I said I would throw myself into the arena to be eaten, guest got the first bite. Can anyone answer the back library question, does this forum have one?

    Byway I found this from Microsoft which seems to sum it all up.
    https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wi...irus/windows-defender-antivirus-compatibility
    Seems that I might be a bit belt and braces but I have not had any conflicts so I will carry on with my set up.
     
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    I was talking in general :)

    If @fossewayfella like to have 2 engines running at same time, there is some vendors doing this, and the products are optimized for such use.
     
  16. itman

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    Of interest in this article is "passive mode." Stated is this is the only way WD can be used with a third party AV and it requires the WD ATP subscription. Also of note is although it appears WD is running in realtime mode, it will only detect and log but not mitigate malware. As stated, it will defer all mitigation activities to the third party AV solution.

    Appears to me "passive mode" would be an excellent benchmark tool as to detection effectiveness of third party AV solutions to that of WD. Really surprised no independent source has run such a comparative.
     
  17. Infected

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    360 would be probably the best of them..
     
  18. nine9s

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    I just enabled Windows Defenders on a Windows 10 x64 machine, after uninstalling Emsisoft.

    I tried searching for recommended settings for Windows Defender but cannot find any. Also, there does not look to be many settings anyway.

    Anywhere where I can find recommended settings?
     
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    It has very little when it comes to settings. I think it has what to do on detection, what type of scan to schedule and cloud protection, nothing too fancy.
     
  21. Bertazzoni

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    ConfigureDefender makes more settings available to enable its full potential. Some will always hate WD, others feel differently. Only you may determine if it works for you. :thumb:
     
  22. mekelek

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    having to use a 3rd party tool to configure your security suite.
    does that sound normal to you?
     
  23. Tyreman

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    You don't have to use a 3rd party tool at all
    I'm not and it works fine so far
    If you dont wanna use WD then so be it
     
  24. reldel

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    I can remember when Blackspear's settings (Wilders Global Moderator) for Eset Antivirus was considered by many to be normal and smart. Could be that normal is in the eye of the beholder.
     
  25. __Nikopol

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    It isn't. I wrote almost the same sentence a while back :D
    And I got the same response, mostly.
    You have to use it if you only have Home.
    "I don't use X and I'm fine" is not an argument. Your experience and needs may vary.
    "If you don't like it, don't use it" is not an argument. It is a phrase used to crush critics - but it only crushes you.
     
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