Cylance Smart Antivirus for Home users

Discussion in 'other anti-virus software' started by mekelek, Jul 12, 2018.

  1. JRViejo

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    Let's Stop the Personal Bashing, and Return to the Thread's Topic Please!
     
  2. EASTER

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    With such a vague program title as "Smart", maybe it can be better put into perspective for comparison, as concerns Cylance, what exactly constitutes and satisfies expectations assigning that name to this particular AV. Some brief examples early on in this thread have been suggested but not exactly described which stand out. Or I missed it.

    Are we to simply take their word for it? Skeptically speaking of course. I remember for one when NoVirusThanks first made it's entry to stage in thinking, what kind of joke is this one gonna be? Of course Program Titles can be anything and are :D

    However NVT program(s) proved, among others, so what's in a name? It's the meat and potatoes (Metal) that counts-that is-Feature(s) Results.
     
  3. Nightwalker

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    I tried the "free version" and had some false positives, not a huge problem per se because I was expecting that, but the quarantine didnt worked for me and it was very annoying.

    All the management is done using the Cylance Portal, it reports correctly how many threats were detected and quarantined, but when I try to see the files in the quarantine it doesnt show anything, so I cant restore the files.

    Has anyone faced this problem with the quarantine?



    Anyway, I found that the system impact was much bigger than I was expecting; it is low on I/O operations and average on CPU usage (becomes lower after some reboots), but I still feel my machine somewhat sluggish compared to ESET 11 or Kaspersky 2019, maybe it would become better with time, but I had to unistall it because of the non-functional quarantine.
     
  4. Mmark

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    It's the exact same issue I have with it. People keep discussing protection stuff but do not even mention some basic usability issues it has.
     
  5. paulderdash

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    Reading the posts at MT, and now here, Cylance seems to generate much controversy. But I was just curious to try it.

    No problems with the quarantine on CSA (paid) here. Just allowed them.

    Feels low impact on my old Dell laptop.
     
  6. Gein

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    It's really one of those things where you hear people talking so negatively about it and you go try it out and it's like WTH, It ain't that bad.
     
  7. hawaii007

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    People trash it and never try it and people that test it make sure it looks bad in a tests.
    The one thing you can learn is that most people on these forums are bias as per their job and testing and selling Antivirus software.
    Cylance is light and works just as good as other AV. But as being light you can't compare it to Kaspersky which is very heavy on the system.
    Just run Cylance with Comodo (CS) FW and you are all set, and you have a very effective light system.
     
  8. itman

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    Yikes! The "back and forth" is still going on.

    Just install the bugger if you wish and report back when you get nailed by some script based malware.
     
  9. hawaii007

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    You can block all scripts if you like in cylance
     
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    Not this user. He abandoned ALL AV's forever save only the WD on the one Windows 10, and that one is courtesy having a Windows O/S.

    So, nothing to offer, neither comparison or results, satisfactory or not, aside from the suspicious nature I gathered from the top of this Topic Title's very first introductory post that suggested a price for a product most folks haven't clue ever existed before recently.
     
  11. Nightwalker

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    You cant do that in the Smart Antivirus version (for home users).
     
  12. hawaii007

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    but you can do it cylanceprotect
     
  13. Nightwalker

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    Good to know, but this thread is about "Cylance Smart Antivirus for Home users" and there isnt such option.

    The Smat Antivirus version doesnt have any option or configuration at all, but it is understandable, it is made to be simple and easy to use.
     
  14. Gein

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    I feel like I'm at a faith healer convention and people are arguing about the best way to re-align their chakra.

    "Go ahead use the purple crystal and see if your heart chakra don't end up misaligned."
     
  15. hawaii007

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    You do have these setting below

    Auto protect against suspicious files

    Prevent suspicious files from executing before they have an opportunity
    to do any damage to a computer.


    Auto protect against abnormal files
    Prevent abnormal files from executing before they have an opportunity
    to do any damage to a computer.


    Send files to cloud
    Automatically contribute file samples to the Cylance Cloud to perform
    deep analysis of the file.
     
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    Read the title of this thread
     
  17. hawaii007

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    You do have these setting below
    Cylance Smart Antivirus


    Auto protect against suspicious files
    Prevent suspicious files from executing before they have an opportunity
    to do any damage to a computer.


    Auto protect against abnormal files
    Prevent abnormal files from executing before they have an opportunity
    to do any damage to a computer.


    Send files to cloud
    Automatically contribute file samples to the Cylance Cloud to perform
    deep analysis of the file.
     
  18. cruelsister

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    G- You may be (and I mean ABSOLUTELY no disrespect to you!!!!). Since inception, Cylance has been raising money by the bundle (I'm not taking trivia here! It's over 2 billion USD in Venture Capital) and has been using a bulk of it as self-promotion, all in anticipation of an eventual IPO. Initially the advertising was targeted at the Uber-Geek in emails and U-Geek publications, as well as the disgusting "Unbelievable Tour" promotions from 2016. For this Tour Cylance supplied their own malware set, which subsequently was proved to be exceedingly Cherry-picked and bogus (ask Professor Google as this has been discussed here before). They also "allowed" members of the audience to supply their own malware (which made me, My Friends, and Ophelia just drool) to be tested. Needless to say there was an extreme difference in results.

    This June Cylance once again had a funding round (120 million USD thrown at them by Blackstone), and this cash was used primarily to promote the Home version. This cash was certainly put to work as I've personally gotten many targeted ads recently in various places about Cylance Smart AV. They've also been very smart at who they hire-last year they picked Brian Robins from AlienVault as a CFO.

    But to answer your question, the vitriol you may be reading could be from some who have been wise to the marketing ability of C, and who have a native dislike of being considered Stupid.

    ps- If you see anyone posting regarding a conspiracy because of a few bucks thrown their way by In-Q-Tel,
    please slap them for me. The money given to Cylance by the US Government is nothing but pocket change found under the cushions of their Corporate couches.
     
  19. mekelek

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    but you have way better, faster, lighter options than Cylance.
    and i'm not talking out of my ***, I/We have been comparing results of a lot of AVs including Cylance. When an AI driven AV that can't block anything else than exe's are missing 100% malicious exes, you have a problem.

    let's have an example of ESET instead of Cylance in your combo. ESET NOD32 AV: top3 in fastest signatures in the market, you get exploit protection, you get a decent HIPS (comodo's HIPS is horrendous), as light or hell lighter than Cylance and you can get a license for 4 euros for a year for 1 device.

    trust me, noone has an issue with Cylance cause of some made up bs with the CIA and bla bla, we all have an issue with it being supbar compared to other solutions while being twice the price. Sure it's light, but there are lighter/better than it.

    oh yea, DeepArmor is ten times better than Cylance, considering it's AI can and is detecting doc exploits and scriptors.(the trial is currently sitting on my VM)
    tho keep in mind, it misses samples other AVs already sigged ages ago. but so does Cylance, and a lot more samples.
     
  20. EASTER

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    Based only on assumption, first onlookers might suppose that these Cylance features constitute to make up the "Smart" in the name Cylance Smart Antivirus?

    As a non-AV user or just one looking to peer into what this product might offer of any real interest to a newcomer user to try, consumers are always and often inundated by programs & products sporting a title with Smart in it. And normally it's just naturally assumed a typical marketing lingo already assigned to a myriad of all sorts of devices and merchandise of this sort.

    Which in turn begs to question exactly where and the what that the Smart part is focused on.
     
  21. mekelek

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    nothing, it's just a PR name. it's definetly not Smart.
     
  22. Rasheed187

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    OK I see. So it seems like Cylance is bad at detecting malicious behavior after execution, they should add some form of behavior blocker.

    It's probably because they claim to rely solely on AI/ML, and you would hope that they perform better than the well known AV's. But Cylance isn't the first to do this, Invincea also claimed to be able to block most malware with ML, but they also combined it with a behavior blocker.

    Forgot about DeepArmor, can you still download it?
     
  23. mekelek

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    yea you can grab a 15day trial with any random email.
     
  24. guest

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    Exactly what i said...tweak the soft.

    This is what you must do before playing, you test the game in normal conditions, and if some issues happens, you look for a solution, apply it then you can play.
    basic 101.

    Doesn't matter which AV, what matters is can you fix the issue by tweaking the said AV, yes or no?
    I was an hardcore gamer, playing with some pro-gamers; never but never we use any AVs while gaming. We used to setup a dedicated machine (or for those who don't have one, we dual-boot a dedicated OS) with the bare minimum to run the game which is set at lowest setting for max FPS.
     
  25. Krusty

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    Maybe we should have the thread renamed the Eset thread? :rolleyes:
     
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