Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

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  1. Mrkvonic

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    I'm glad you enjoy it. Surprise!
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  2. ronjor

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    Win10 1709 and later are supposed to uninstall SMBv1 if it isn’t used — but 1803 doesn’t work that way
    July 21, 2018
    https://www.askwoody.com/2018/smbv1-not-installed-by-default-in-win10-1709-or-later-except/
     
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    I did a Win 10 reset on the 18th which will result in a fresh install of 1803. Below is a screen shot of current SMBv1 setting:

    SMB_v1_1803.png

    Supposedly and as far as ver. 1709 goes, SMBv1 is supposed to be auto removed after 15 days of OS installation. Note that 15 days haven't elapsed, so no way of knowing if it auto disables or not. However, according to this:
    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/107605-enable-disable-smb1-file-sharing-protocol-windows.html

    It appears you have to manually remove it in 1803.o_O

    -EDIT- Running PowerShell as Admin, this command will show you if SMBv1 is installed:

    Get-WindowsOptionalFeature –Online –FeatureName SMB1Protocol​
     
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    I did not disabled it manually. Maybe update to Windows removed that feature?
    Code:
    PS C:\Users\Administrator> Get-WindowsOptionalFeature –Online –FeatureName SMB1Protocol
    Get-WindowsOptionalFeature : The request is not supported.
    At line:1 char:1
    + Get-WindowsOptionalFeature –Online –FeatureName SMB1Protocol
    + ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        + CategoryInfo          : NotSpecified: (:) [Get-WindowsOptionalFeature], COMException
        + FullyQualifiedErrorId : Microsoft.Dism.Commands.GetWindowsOptionalFeatureCommand
    
    smb.png
     
  7. Cruise

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    I'm confused... is it advisable to leave SMB1 enabled?
     
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    can't say it is. better off disabling it.
     
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    It is advisable to disable SMB1. This command only was supposed to check state.
     
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    Nothing in windows uses SMB1 natively for anything native.
     
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    Yes, one of the updates disabled it.

    There are problems with Windows XP machines trying to connect to Windows 10 after update if you don't re-enable this option (file share and SQL connections to SQL server don't work). I know that those systems should be replaced but in reality there are still many system that use this protocol.
     
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    What about SMB Direct?
     
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    As far as the SMBv1 enabling in Win10 ver 1803, appears Microsoft did so for a reason.

    Using Eset IDS, I have access to admin shares blocked. Since disabling SMBv1, I see multiple attempts occurring 2 - 3 times a day being blocked to port 445. The domain involved is Microsoft_ds. Now here is where it gets weird. The to/from IP addresses are localhost; namely 127.0.0.1. I never have previously seen Eset block access to admin shares.

    At this point, it appears that Microsoft is sending traffic in/out via a hidden proxy through its hidden Teredo tunnel using port 445 I suspect. Why remains to be determined. Also, it appears that the default SMBv1 settings in 1803 need to be reestablished,
     
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    Microsoft adds AI smarts to Windows 10 to avoid inconvenient update reboots -- but it's a dictatorial waste of technology
    July 25, 2018
    https://betanews.com/2018/07/25/windows-10-reboot-smarts/
     
  19. xxJackxx

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    So is it the new normal for these Insider build updates to take half a day? I am updating mine on a VM (no other software installed in it, using it exclusively for software testing) and it has been updating for the last 3 and a half hours. It has been this way for at least the last 3 builds. Is this what everyone else is seeing?

    -It just finished. 5 hours. Seems ridiculous to me.
     
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    I am dog sitting over at my daughter's and son in-law's place. She doesn't use this notebook much I am on right now. As such, Win 10 1803 update kicked in soon as I turned it on. Anyway, its an older Dell notebook but business grade with Intel I3, 300+GB drive, and 4 GB memory. It is my son in-law's former work notebook and was configured by his IT staff.

    Well, it took somewhere time-wise in the range you're describing; 5+ hours for the 1803 upgrade excluding download time. Afterwards, I was looking at how this notebook is configured. The HDD has two partitions; one for OS of 80 GB and the other partition used for data storage, Again, this was a work PC originally.

    Therefore, I am somewhat convinced that drive available space and speed is probably the most important factor in these ever increasing in size Win 10 upgrades.
     
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    Here's how you can still get a free Windows 10 upgrade
     
  22. guest

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    With DaaS Windows coming, say goodbye to your PC as you know it
    How much are you going to like having Microsoft in charge of your desktop?
    July 30, 2018

    https://www.computerworld.com/artic...ng-say-goodbye-to-your-pc-as-you-know-it.html
     
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    I for one will NOT be renting Windows. ***Expletive!***
     
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    Same here Krusty. This goes down and I will be going to Linux.
     
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    Tablet moms will love it. :isay:
     
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