NSA has direct access to tech giants' systems for user data, secret files reveal

Discussion in 'privacy general' started by Dermot7, Jun 6, 2013.

  1. mirimir

    mirimir Registered Member

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    Yes, Cicero was very eloquent :) It's amazing how little has changed since the Roman Empire.
     
  2. Chuck57

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    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." Benjamin Franklin

    Online, when I'm making posts whether on FB (where I'm currently banned for 30 days) or on MeWe, what I say is open to the world. When I'm on the phone, cell or landline, I expect my conversations to be between me and the person I'm talking with. I'm not a criminal, never attempted a crime. I spent 25 yrs of my life wearing a badge. What they're doing and have done by collecting such conversations in the hopes of finding that one particular one that might prevent an act, is to me like trying to take away everyone's firearms (99% of which are owned by honest citizens) in hopes of preventing crime. First, it can't be done and second, the bad guys will still have them. Same thing with invading our privacy. It won't stop anything. It's all about control.
     
  3. mirimir

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    I do love the message in that quote. And Benjamin Franklin was a great man.

    But the "essential Liberty" he was talking about was the Pennsylvania legislature's right to tax the Penn family. To help fund the fight against Indians, and the French. And the Penn family was offering a lump sum ("temporary Safety") "in exchange for the General Assembly's acknowledging that it did not have the authority to tax it."

    https://www.npr.org/2015/03/02/3902...safety-quote-lost-its-context-in-21st-century
     
  4. Chuck57

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    I know the reference, but Franklin's quote applies to the NSA, Federal Government and a lot more. It's remarkable to me that people today are willing to surrender so much of their freedom and liberty, based on promises from a bunch of politicians that many of those same people trust less than used car salesmen.
     
  5. mirimir

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    I get that. Except that I'm more with the Penn family on the freedom to tax issue. And I'm more with the Indians and French on the conflict. There's an old joke about relationships between colonists and indigenous peoples: the Spanish killed, the English enslaved, and the French married.
     
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  7. RockLobster

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    Yeah probably a frame.
     
  8. Dermot7

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    The Untold Story of Japan’s Secret Spy Agency
     
  9. Minimalist

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    https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...security-education-posters-from-the-cold-war/
     
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    Edward Snowden: 'The people are still powerless, but now they're aware'
    Five years after historic NSA leaks, whistleblower tells the Guardian he has no regrets
    June 4, 2018

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jun/04/edward-snowden-people-still-powerless-but-aware
     
  11. hawki

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    "The NSA Spy-Hubs in Eight U.S. Cities...

    Atlanta, Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, New York City, San Francisco, Seattle, and Washington, D.C. In each of these cities, The Intercept has identified an AT&T facility containing networking equipment that transports large quantities of internet traffic across the United States and the world. A body of evidence – including classified NSA documents, public records, and interviews with several former AT&T employees – indicates that the buildings are central to an NSA spying initiative that has for years monitored billions of emails, phone calls, and online chats passing across U.S. territory...

    The NSA considers AT&T to be one of its most trusted partners and has lauded the company’s 'extreme willingness to help...."

    https://theintercept.com/2018/06/25/att-internet-nsa-spy-hubs/
     
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    The ACLU's Biggest Roadblock to Fighting Mass Surveillance
    June 29, 2018
    https://www.wired.com/story/wikimedia-nsa-surveillance-privacy-lawsuit/
     
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    NSA: Sorry, Sorry, Trying to Delete
    June 29, 2018
    https://gizmodo.com/nsa-sorry-sorry-trying-to-delete-1827232036
     
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    Private sector isn’t sharing data with DHS’s threat portal
    June 28, 2018
    https://www.cyberscoop.com/dhs-ais-cisa-isnt-used-jim-langevin/?category_news=technology
     
  15. Minimalist

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    NSA has yet to fix security holes that helped Snowden leaks
    https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/28/nsa-has-yet-to-fix-security-holes-that-helped-snowden-leaks/
     
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    Battle lines drawn over US mass surveillance as senators probe NSA's bonfire of phone records
    August 06, 2018
    https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/08/06/us_spying_programs/
    letter (PDF): https://regmedia.co.uk/2018/08/06/nsa-wyden-paul-section215.pdf
     
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    https://theintercept.com/snowden-sidtoday/
    https://theintercept.com/2018/08/15/nsa-edward-snowden-whistleblower-document-leaks/
     
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    Linux Kernel 4.20 to drop NSA-developed Speck Algorithm
    September 5, 2018
    https://appuals.com/linux-kernel-4-20-to-drop-nsa-developed-speck-algorithm/
     
  20. Minimalist

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    NSA Attacks Against Virtual Private Networks
    https://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2018/09/nsa_attacks_aga.html
     
  21. guest

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    Federal Court Says NSA PRISM Surveillance Good And Legal Because The Gov't Said It Was Good And Legal
    September 17, 2018
    https://www.techdirt.com/articles/2...gal-because-govt-said-it-was-good-legal.shtml
     
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    UK refusal to cooperate with Belgian hacking inquiry condemned
    Fears stance on GCHQ’s alleged hacking of Belgacom could damage diplomatic relations
    October 25, 2018
    https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...lgian-hacking-inquiry-condemned-gchq-belgacom
     
  23. mirimir

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    Well, what's Belgium going to do? Break off diplomatic relations? That seems a little unlikely, but hey ;)
     
  24. Stefan Froberg

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    Yea...
    Even tought im not a US citizen it's pretty depressing that there is no real democrazy there ... :(

    This shows that their juridical system is just rubber stamp for the rich and goverment.
    Just like UK, where after 17 years of unlawful (no warrants or anything like that whatsoever) spying of their citizens the court was like "All is well, carry on"
     
  25. RockLobster

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    I dont think there is true democracy or justice anywhere anymore. An interesting look at that is to google "Gordon Bowden" and/or "788-790 Finchley Road." Then just read what you find. I have talked to this guy, he is totally genuine, and all the evidence he collected is sealed in the Royal Courts of Justice but no law enforcement agency in Britain will touch it because of who is implicated in this huge multi billion dollar international fraud.
     
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