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I have yet to try it since I am so busy these days...what exactly is so complex vs 3.1?

 

Before you try v4 backup all your 3.1 settings and lists, just in case you want to go back to 3.1

 

I will. thanks

 

I hope 3.1 will still be developed, down its own less-complex path.

 

I thought we would have seen more builds for testing since the last build. I hope the next release is a big one.

 

I just hope v3 doesn't become abandonware to the extent that it is no longer available for download. IMO, v3 is 99.9999% perfect as of now, but so was Private FW in its day. Even the best security apps need to be kept current with trends in nasty stuff, don't they? So I hope v3 will be tweaked from time to time to stay "up with the times" without seeking to become the be-all & end-all security solution, which seems to be the direction v4 is headed in.

 

You have v4 , means v3 is dead, don't live in the past and adapt to the present.
if v3 were meant to be improved, v4 won't be ERP v4 but called something else.

 

True enough. Am always been a straggler myself for hanging on to old version softs especially when they've become a long time familiar and dependable program at a reliable level with no resource drain. Still running a v3 on my 8.1 but think am about to turn a page which will effectively populate all my systems (4) with v4 since it does seem the do-all end-all anti-exe/process controller found at this level of restraint in very short supply.

 

Ah, I'm sure the view from Mt Olympus is grand this time of year. "In the past" this was a friendly, helpful forum. Less so nowadays, sad to say. I shall take a sabbatical for a while.

 

Nobody prevent anyone to use the old v3 if they love it (as i did), but it was abandoned years before v4 was even on the table; so asking for some "improvements" is quite futile.

With all respect, if a developer makes an new version from scratch, it means he decided to forego the previous model and do a better one, focusing all his time/effort/resources on it, so basically asking an old discontinued version to be improved while the new one is actively under development is like saying "hey dude i don't care of your new version, i don't want to learn/use it, keep developing the old one"...

Computer Security is all about progress, implementing new techniques to counter incessant new attack vectors, not stagnating with old models. Those models that can't adapt dies.

 

Not meant to be, i didn't know his age and even if i knew, i won't take into consideration any age/gender/country/ethnic in my posts.
To me a member here is just someone (whoever/wherever they are) interested in computer security, that is all.

If i read something that is against my opinion/point of view/knowledge, i express it without restraints (still without insulting people of course); then people do whatever they want with it.
Sometimes i'm right, sometimes i'm wrong; so i expect people to be direct as i am when i say something erroneous/inaccurate/wrong.

 

ERP 3 still works well for me, and i'm using Windows 10. I will upgrade to version 4 when it's ready for the additional functionality provided by the expression builder, but version 3 still works well for me.

 

You surely have some internal improvements. the new expression builder is what give ERP all is efficiency, granular control gives better security.
Also there is SUA full implementation, but of course, for those who don't use SUA, it is useless.

 

Agree. Keep yer v3 installers well preserved. EASTER does this as well with other old softwares and it's really a confidence boost to know v3 is still relevant, useful and likely will be even with the crazy evolution of Microsoft's Windows 10 parade of updates-upgrades and what have ya. Even in spite of the awesome v4's most formidable advancements-enhancements.

 

Tu true Pete. I have done as you suggest.

As to the greater complexity of v4 versus v3 --- I well remember the hey-days of HIPS, such as Malware Defender, SSM, etc -- those were the darlings of Wilders folks at that time. If someone remarked that those powerful security programs were too complex, he or she was quickly shot-down as being inept or behind the times or simply too stupid to use really advanced security apps.

Today, those pure HIPS apps are all dead & gone. IMO, at least part of the reason those apps died was because their developers put a bit too much emphasis on satisfying the urgings of the denizens of Wilders. The problem with that approach is that many of the most vocal folks at this forum are not very representative of users in general.

It is somewhat axiomatic that increased power often generates increased complexity. It used to be that the brunt of that complexity fell on users, who had to learn to tweak dozens upon dozens of settings. Over time, the trend changed. Nowadays, the financially successful security apps are keeping more & more of that steadily increasing complexity "under the hood". They put the burden of tweaking that complexity on their programmers and AI, more so than on their users. Complex security apps that continue to rely heavily on user intervention are likely to remain as niche apps at best (the darlings of security forums), or they may disappear altogether at worst.

I cannot help but wonder -- how many "average users," with money to spend on security apps, will spend it to gain access to user-intensive options such as expression builders & their ilk?

 

You don't need the expression builder for classic usage of ERP, unlike HIPS, ERP v4 allow you to click few options and it is almost set & forget.
When an unsigned application popup an alert, if you just ran it manually, you dont have to do more than allow + remember.
If that is already too much for some people, OSA is a better alternative, it was especially made for beginners, no prompts at all.

ERP v4 was intentionally made for advanced users, it was promoted as such, hence why OSA exist (made for beginners).
I like the new ERP because i can lockdown the system even more than v3.
I will even dare to say, ERP (and its new expression builder) is more adequate for very small business deployment than average home users.

 

ERP v4 = A form of HIPS on super steroids. Lockdown after selective tweaking indeed channels and keeps interactions into a finite pattern. Freaking awesome piece of exceptional security!

 

Now THIS I can agree with. As to whether or not such a narrow market will prosper ERP 4 -- I truly hope that it does.

Rick/Bogart said (classic line): "We'll always have Paris." {"Casablanca" -- 1942}
In the same spirit I say, "We'll always have v.3." {"Casawilders" -- 2018}

 

i also remember the days when a phone only meant a little box with buttons on it, look where we're now
technology is evolving, thankfully cyber-technology/security as well
the big guys aren't making their products simpler, they just set up a default state where a casual user can leave it alone and it will protect you, meanwhile for advanced users, you can go deep into the settings and find the advanced options to configure it to your liking

I'm pretty sure as @guest mentioned, OSArmor was made for people like you(dont take this the wrong way, not insulting) that don't want to "evolve/advance" and get to know v4, just wants to leave it alone and let it do its job.