Hi: I am setting up a powerful gaming pc with VR capability and have ordered ssd drive (500GB). Now I want to know for keeping a ssd in top performance and clean what cleaners or optimizer I can use? I have read that for ssd fragmentation and wipes are dangerous. I usualy use ccleaner and glary utilities and suites like these for my HDD to keep it clean and optimize. Now with upgrading to a SSD, which one can I use and what not to use and do. Thank in advance for your replys.
You really don't need to do anything. SSDs do not need any tweaking to make them run fast. Because of the way SSDs work, there is very little benefit gained from defragging them, so it pointless to do so. However, it is harmless, because despite popular belief, SSDs do not have a short lifespan. To quote one, of many articles about the long life of SSDs. https://www.pcworld.com/article/2856052/grueling-endurance-test-blows-away-ssd-durability-fears.html Using disk cleaning software, won't hurt.
Windows should recognise it is a SSD and Disk Optimisation probably will be enabled. This is safe and different to defragging a drive. CCleaner won't hurt, just make sure you are not using secure delete as that is pointless on a SSD and only causes excessive writes.
Thanks for your replies. SO which of the following do you guys think is ok or safe for me to run on a ssd to keep it junk, temp and error free and which ones I do not need to use. CCLeaner Glarysoft utilities (has disk error fixer, so is it safe to use it to scan the driver for errors and fix?) clean master for pc or just using windows own junk cleaner is fine? By the way this is the ssd I ordered: http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct500mx500ssd1 So is it a good one or anyone using it? I am building this powerful gaming machine via the following ACER GX-785-EB13 -intel i7 7th generation 7700 -nvidia geforce gtx-1070 8GB DDR5 -2TB HDD plus 500GB SSD (ordered) -28GB DDR4 RAM -500W power supply -Gaming mouse and keyboard -gigabit lan and wireless networks bought a HP VR headset(mixed reality and VR gaming) so what you guys think? do I need to add anything else?
You don't need to use third party software to check the disk errors, chkdsk is all you need. Checking for errors is really only something you need to do very occasionally. For the most part, Windows will run chkdsk, if needed, at startup. Windows own disk cleanup works quite well. You can enable Storage Sense, to make it run automatically. But, if you want to clean more junk, I highly recommend Wise Disk Cleaner. Crucial make very good SSDs.
thanks. I used wise disk cleaners before and it caused issues with my windows 10s many time that I am staying away. so only been using ccleaner, glary utilites and bought clean master for pc license. so using ccleaners plus windows own disk cleanup is good then? does running glarysoft all-in-one tools ok or not? Also I use rollback RX home pc time machine for snapshots and backup safety. So is it safe if I use it on a SSD?
Personally, I've never had any issues with Wise Disk Cleaner. I use if with the default settings and have it scheduled to do an automatic cleanup, weekly. I also use Clean Master and its junk cleanup is safe to use. I also use its PC Boost module, but have a look at what it wants to disable and ignore anything I want to keep, before clicking on Boost. Personally, I don't use CCleaner, as I in my opinion Wise Disk Cleaner is better. You can use Rollback RX with a SSD, but apparently the TRIM function does not work when using it. Perhaps @TheRollbackFrog can give some insight.
thanks for reply. ok rollback rx is not good for ssd. So is there any other similar software that does not screw trim or harm ssd? How about macrium reflect? is it safe to use on a ssd. I need an snapshot tool as I routinely test and install stuff and want to revert back to a good snapshot. Thanks in advance for your reply. Also does installing a fresh windows 10 on a ssd work with my oem windows license. mine is like that that every time I install or format and put a fresh windows its automatically registered it. so my question is that the oem license will still register it when i put a fresh windows on the new ssd instead of the hdd?
Well it's not necessarily bad. I'm sure TheRollbackFrog, will be able to give you some advice. It will automatically be activated. It makes no difference at all, if you are using a SSD or hard drive.
See https://www.maketecheasier.com/12-things-you-must-do-when-running-a-solid-state-drive-in-windows-7/ n. 2-3-5-7-8-10. I would not apply the other.
Actually, "Secure delete" is what you do use on a SSD when you want to get rid of the drive. Perhaps you mean CCleaner's "Drive Wiper" feature. That is pointless on a SSD. I use CCleaner to clean out the clutter, but Windows own Disk Cleanup works just fine for that. I like CCleaner because it lets me keep the cookies for sites I visit regularly, like Wilders,so I don't have re-enter my site credentials after cleaning out the clutter. You don't need it or any optimization tools. Windows 10 is not XP and users need to stop treating it that way. Windows, especially Windows 10 knows how to properly use its resources just fine. As far as that list of things you must do, it is so riddled with misinformation and bad advice, I say to totally ignore it! If disabling Indexing was better, Microsoft would disable it by default - just as they did with defragging when an SSD is detected. Once again, Windows 10 is NOT XP. Indexing in W10 is vastly improved compared to Indexing in XP. And BECAUSE SSDs are so fast, Indexing is done much faster and way in the background so it impacts performance even less. If you disable Indexing, Windows has to search the drive every time you want to find something. If you keep Indexing enabled, Windows only has to search the Indexing database, which is much faster than searching the entire drive. Don't disable it. Also, that article is simply wrong when it comes to defragging. Windows will NOT defrag a SSD as that article claims - even if you tell it too. There's a reason the feature is now called "Optimize Drives" instead of "Disk Defragmenter". Do keep the feature at its default setting - enabled. This will ensure Windows keeps TRIM and wear leveling running properly, but will keep your hard drives defragged if you have any. Do NOT disable the fetch and search routines. Do NOT disable ClearPageFileAtShutdown or LargeSystemCache. Claiming doing so makes the Windows shutdown process "much faster" is just nonsense. Think about this for a second. Microsoft wants your system to run at peak performance. Why? Because it makes Windows look better! No duh, huh? Contrary to what some folks want us to believe, the developers at Microsoft are very sharp - some of the top programmers in the world, with decades and exabytes of empirical data to draw from. Since they already know how to identify a SSD vs a HD and already configure some settings to optimize performance with SSDs, does it make sense they would leave others settings that degrade performance? No! Leave the defaults as they are. Believe it not, the folks that make Windows know how it works. All you need to do to keep your system running properly is to keep Windows and your security current, and don't be "click-happy" on unsolicited links, downloads, attachments, and popups.
thx guys for your responses. Also do you guys know what to do to make sure during fresh windows install, that windows is installed on ssd and not the hdd? I want ti keep both. use my hdd as a file storage only. So when I connect ssd do I have to go to BIOS and change anything to make sure the ssd is the primary drive and not the hdd? or do I have to disable the hdd and install windows on ssd and then enable the hdd? I rather have them both and not take or disable the hdd since its 2TB and its good for being used as a storage. also do you know having both ssd and hdd driver will windows still enable trimm? Also i read about intel software for making a hybrid driver (intel smart response technology) using a ssd and hdd? is it any good or will it lock or damage the drives? link: https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/smart-response-technology.html Thanks in advance for all your helps guys. appreciate it very much.
Greetins @taleblou ! As has been mentioned by @roger_m , Rollback functions fine when using an SSD but it does not allow the OS to properly manage the SSD via its TRIM command. Without a functional TRIM command, the SSD will wind up carrying around a ton of old deleted DATA that will use up important internal SSD space. Eventually the SSD will have to enter a mode where its access time will be seriously degraded. Many Rollback users who don't necessarily need to carry around tons of old RBrx snapshots, usually run a periodic maintenance of their SSDs. This is done by unInstalling Rollback, reBOOTing the System (absolutely required to remove the compromised Rollback disk driver), running a Windows OPTIMIZATION process (W8, W10... separate tool required <SSDtool> when using W7), then reInstalling Rollback. That optimization process allows Windows to "clean up" the internals (all old, unneeded, previously deleted DATA) of that SSD. I use a licensed version of Macrium REFLECT to both manage my System image backups as well as my "snapshotting" requirements. With REFLECT's RDR (Rapid Delta Restore) feature (not available in the FREE version), the return to a recent Incremental snapshot is very quick when using the BOOT menu installed REFLECT Recovery Media. When using this feature on my SSD, the restoration time for a snapshot is just slightly slower than RBrx. REFLECT would be a good choice if you wish to replace Rollback. Pls remember, Rollback provides no protection at all for any System hardware failure... you'd need a backup/imaging system anyway to eliminate the recreation of the System upon failure... REFLECT provides both functions (Snapshot & System image backup) adequately.
the intel smart technology sounds good but it says use a low capacity ssd (atleast 16gb) with a high capacity hdd. well my ssd is high capacity Mine will be 500gb so I guess I cannot use it? https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/smart-response-technology.html
As mentioned above, Windows knows how to deal with SSDs and HDs when it sees them. So sure, it will keep TRIM enabled on the SSD and will defrag the HD. Look at your motherboard manual. Typically, they tell you which connection by default is for the boot drive and which are for secondary drives. But you can also just boot directly into the BIOS Setup Menu and make sure the SSD is listed ahead of the HD in the boot order. Or, you can simply unplug the power connector to your HD, install Windows, then connect power to the HD again.
thx. I do not have the motherbord manual for my pc. was not included with my acer aspire gx-785-eb13. searched online and could not find it. Also I can see my 6 sata 3 ports with sata-6 closer and reachable then the other ones due to the huge deforce 1070 graphic card and small opening left. So is it ok if I connect the ssd to sata-6 port or it has to be sata-1 port?
I was looking for the diagram for my mainbord and talked to acer and they told me that my model can handle upto 256gb ssd and I have a 500gb coming today. I talked to crucial and they said it should work fine and is guaranteed compatible. Now I am confused. do any of you guys know if crucial (my ssd manufacturer) is correct? I do not want to screw my pc or the ssd.
I don't blame you. I think that Acer tech you talked doesn't know what he's talking about. Yes, you can connect the SSD to any port. If you have more than one drive installed, you might have to access the BIOS Setup Menu to ensure the one you want is listed ahead of the other in the Boot Order menu - but this is easy.
thank you. you put my mind at ease. I thought I was stuck with a useless ssd. was very upset. Now I am at ease that it will work on my system. that acer agent kept saying sorry. I guess i find out when I connect it to my system. I hope that it works flawless and no issues or damage.
The worst case scenario would be you have to partition your SSD into two partitions, but I sure don't see why. The computer should not care, especially since according to this, it supports a 2TB HD. Just noticed you said 28GB of RAM. That is an odd amount. Did you mean 24GB?
thx. ok so I am good with the 500gb ssd then. Also it is 28gb. The system came with 12gb and I installed 16gb my self that would give 28gb ram. it has 3 8gb and 1 4gb memory. Also what you mean partitient into 2? how to do that? I know how to do it in windows but not any other way through bios. I hope it does not come to that.
Sorry - didn't mean to confuse you. If for some reason it did not support the larger SSD, it most likely would only see 256GB and format to a partition that size. After you installed Windows, you would need to format the rest into another partition. But I would not worry about that as again, I don't think the Acer guy knew what he was talking about.
oh I get it. So if I got it correct is that i will see a 256 drive in windows partitient and an empty 256gb of not partitient that i can partitient. Hopefully it will not come to that. Also based on your expertise whats your takes about "intel smart technology"? should I use it or not? is it worth it making a hybrid of ssd plus hdd? https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/architecture-and-technology/smart-response-technology.html
