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    Windows 10 April 2018 Update Fails to Install on Alienware Laptops
    Alienware tool said to be blocking the upgrade
    May 2, 2018
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    Sympathies @Krusty o_O. These feature updates (even monthly cumulative updates) are always a dicey affair, I really don't know how 'ordinary people' :D cope.

    On both machines 1 and 2, Windows Update, I had recurrent cycles of 'Preparing for download', 'Downloading', 'Preparing for install', freezing at random points during these, then 'No updates are available, we'll continue to check daily for newer updates', punctuated by running the Troubleshooter (which found and fixed errors), but could get no further than 'Awaiting install'.

    But clean boot (again) sorted it for me, so I guess it's probably be due to one of the security progs common to both (OSA, AG, EAM, HMPA).

    Both machines now on Win 10 x64 v1803 17134.1. Some oddities so far on machine 2: had to re-setup my Firefox profile manager, Google Backup & Sync, ...

    Machine 3: WU doesn't pick up the feature update yet. May try MCT, Update Assistant or some such, but had enough for one day.
     
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    Google Chrome Freezes in Windows 10 April 2018 Update
    Yet another bug hitting the latest Windows 10 version
    May 2, 2018
    https://news.softpedia.com/news/google-chrome-freezes-in-windows-10-april-2018-update-520939.shtml
     
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    I discovered this morning that the media creation tool won't run on one of my systems (unspecified error), so I found a simple way to download the ISO file directly. Normally the direct download isn't available on Microsoft.com, however all you need to do is change the user agent on the browser to get the direct download links to show. I installed a user again switcher for Chrome and set it to Safari to make this work. :thumb:
     
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    I can't resist. Ran the upgrade and, except for the set apps default which crashes, it's running fine. I'm guessing I had a bad download last time. When I first booted with this, had a strange squealing sound coming from my speakers. Rebooted again and that's gone. So far over two days with several soft and hard reboots, and opening and closing everything on this laptop, setting up Cortana (which I'll never use) and speech (never use it either) all is good except the above 'set apps default' and I can live without that.
     
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    Paulderdash, some people in Emsi forum reporting trouble with updating if EAM protection is active, maybe try disabling protection to see if that helps.
     
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    Well, I had that machine off all night. When I started it this morning, BSOD, then BSOD, then it tried an automatic repair which failed, then finally "Windows couldn't start". I am restoring a Macrium Reflect image for now but when this update is forced on that machine I may have to migrate to Linux.
     
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    Hi bo elam. I too am finding that all all 3 notebooks updated to 1803 that Windows Update will not check updates automatically anymore on reboots (or even when it's been a whole day since the last check). The store appears to be automatically checking and updating apps, but there's definitely something weird going on with Windows Update.

    I had already checked for updates manually on two machines yesrtday morning, and then I came to this forum to see how folk were getting on and if they'd found any bugs. I read your post bo, and decided I'd leave the third machine and see what it did. The third machine didn't automatically check for updates at all, both according to the timestamp on Windows Update in settings, and also in the ReportingEvents.log in the SoftwareDistrubution folder. I tried rebooting a few times, and it made no difference.

    Then a bizarre thing happened. I happened to have the Windows Update open in settings on this third machine, and suddenly it did appear that it was checking for updates automatically, only once it had stopped and reverted back to "You're up to date" - I noticed the timestamp STILL said that the last check was Yesterday at 9.20pm - i.e. 23hrs prior. I closed and opened settings, and even tried re-booting, yet the timestamp was still for 23hrs earlier. I then checked the ReportingEvents.log and there was no record of this attempt (now 20mins later, so it should have been updated in the log). I then manually checked for updates and it both changed the timestamp to the current time, and also recorded the check in the ReportingEvents.log. Weird huh?

    My plan is to keep checking one machine manually each morning (unless it appears to beat me to it), but I'm going to leave the other two to see what they do on their own steam.

    Could you please link me to the forum you found where others were having Windows Update issues with this new release? I did some searching of my own but was unsuccessful in finding anything.
     
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    Hi catspyjamas, yes, looking around the internet is hard to pinpoint people with the same situation regarding the automatic function of Windows update. But I found 3 posters that are clearly experiencing same identical situation. You are number 4. In the first link below, read the opening post and in the second link, read Crizal post. I think Automatic updates is not functioning as its supposed to in many computers but people are not aware.
    https://www.tenforums.com/windows-u...=0db29a416578d8f1b4b4ea66693ee320#post1359090
    https://www.tenforums.com/antivirus...9119-win10-ver1803-defender-not-updating.html

    Also read my posts in the thread below. A few before and after the one I am linking. I wrote there why I think my machine is not checking for updates automatically, I believe is due to a setting in Advanced options. For some reason I cant toggle it to Enableb. When I try to do it, it turns back to Disabled. Look at the pictures I posted there. Perhaps you can check your computer. and let me know what you find. Poster number 4 with same glitch posted in this thread also.
    https://www.tenforums.com/tutorials/24742-reset-windows-update-windows-10-a-23.html#post1360687

    As of right now, I am not gonna do nothing else than what I done already but look and see what I hear. Read my last post in the thread were I posted.

    Bo
     
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    I am also having the same Win 10 1803 Win Update issues described.

    As far the Advanced Options setting you describe, I believe it is to override the Metered Connections setting when enabled. I did that but could not enable the Advanced Options setting for automatic update checking.

    So yes, auto Win Updating in ver. 1803 is borked.
     
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    Here is something else I found that's kind of weird with the April update. When I open Device manager, and click to show hidden devices, I see many Devices as in the picture, faded and with code number 45. I searched code 45 and basically says that there is nothing to be done, it basically means that a piece of hardware needs to be plugged to the computer. In other words, is a non issue. But is strange, I see many of the hidden devices like that after updating to 1803. Itman, other people, can you check your computer to see if you see what I see. I haven't had any issue plugging any USB, CD, my mouse, sound, video, etc, but is strange. I didnt see this sort of thing with the other W10 upgrades, XP or W7.

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    I believe that setting is whats causing the problem.

    Bo
     
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    Those are "ghosted" devices. For example, just plug-in a USB stick once and you will get one. Problem with Win 10 is it doesn't show ghosted drivers even if "hidden" is enabled like Win 7 did.
     
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    Are you seeing a few of this ghosted devices? So, is it OK to be seeing this sort of thing?

    The ones that show up faded in my W10 are all of the type that appear when you click to show the ones that are hidden.

    Edit: What I gather after rereading your post, not seeing ghosted devices would actually be a problem. In my case, seeing them is actually whats proper. Is that what you meant?

    I didnt see this phantom/ghosted devices before 1803.

    Bo
     
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    When I go to Advanced Options in Windows Update, I find I cannot set the middle tab to enabled - the one that says "Automatically download updates, even over metered connections (charges may apply)". When I try to enable it, it flicks straight back to disabled on all three notebooks on 1803.

    I have the other two options enabled already (the one referring to getting updates for other MS products, and the one that refers to notifying when a re-start is needed). I am not 100% sure, but I *think* these settings are all as I had them on 1709 and earlier. The only one I'm not sure about is the one I now cannot enable. I'm not sure if it was disabled before, and if it was, I'm not sure if I could enable it before either. Not much help I'm afraid...

    I wonder if some other forum members would mind checking to see if they can enable the option: Windows Update > Advanced Options > Automatically download updates, even over metered connections (charges may apply).

    Bo I suspect you're right that others probably have issues with WU too but have not yet realised since the release is so new. I wouldn't have been aware of my issues if it wasn't for your post here.
     
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    You have been very helpful, you confirmed seeing what I am seeing. Thank you.

    Let me ask you, are you seeing a lot of those "ghosted" devices?

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    Hi Bo, I had a look at my device manager but I don't speak the language on your image, so it's too had to work out what I'm looking for. I am guessing you have expanded the sound and video and game controllers section - I just have three three things showing under that: an Intel display Audio, a Realtek High Definition Audio, and NVidea virtual audio device. I'm not sure what you clicked on to bring up the properties box, or what anything in the properties box means in English :/

    I wish I'd deferred updating one machine to know if I could enable that option in WU before now....
     
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    catspyjamas,

    Yes, I can enable that option.
     
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    Thank-you Brian K. Interesting. The plot thickens - I have just contacted my father who is still on 1709, and learned he cannot enable that option either (we are both on Windows 10 Home, not pro). One thing I wonder about is whether this is because I have not not set my network as a metered connection (in the properties of my wifi - found in "manage known networks"). Got my Dad to check and his network and he has not set his connection as a metered connection either. I thought about changing it to metered to test if it changes the ability to enable the option in WU, but am worried I'll end up stuffing something up in my wifi if I change the properties and not be able to fix it (am not as good with tech things as many on here!)

    Edited to fix the many typos.
     
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    I would recommend, running BlueScreenView, to find the cause of the BSOD, so that you can fix it, rather than ditching Windows.
     
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    Exactly your experience, I can't enable it. On this machine though, WU has updated on its own three hours ago.
     
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    Ah thanks Osaban. Then this problem of not being able to enable it may not be the problem with WU not updating automatically for some at all, especially as my father has confirmed he cannot enable this setting on his machine still running 1709....
     
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    I feel fortunate. So far I have not had any issues.
     
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    Except it wouldn't even boot into Windows. :cautious:
     
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