Emsisoft Anti-Malware & Emsisoft Internet Security 12

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Mops21, Sep 14, 2016.

  1. stapp

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    @hawki

    That doesn't mean that they haven't seen it and are perhaps working things out in the background.
     
  2. Azure Phoenix

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    I wish emsisoft could use the avast engine instead of BD. BD updates are way too large compared to avast updates.
     
  4. guest

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    Because we were very busy addressing the issue ("fixing" and testing, etc...) which need more than few hours (not saying different timezone) and writing the article below ;)

    https://blog.emsisoft.com/2018/01/04/chip-vulnerabilities-and-emsisoft-what-you-need-to-know/
     
  5. hawki

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    "Thank You for your inquiry respecting the compatibility of EAM with Microsoft's Emergency Update for the Meltdown Vulnerability.

    We are currently working on assuring that EAM is fully compatible and are in fact in the final testing stage.

    We expect to push out a software update tomorrow afternoon.

    Thank You for your patience"

    Alternatively:

    What @guest wrote, if Emsisoft had actually posted it.

    Best Business Practice dictates that the customer base be informed that the company is aware of an outstanding critical issue and is working on resolving it.
     
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  6. guest

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    What was unnoticed by most is that Intel was aware since months...
     
  7. Pirate_fin

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    I started using Emsisoft Anti-Malware and imported mvps hosts into surf protection, so when mvps hosts release new updates how do i update it?

    Do i just import the file again and does it overwrite the old one or do i need to do something else (like delete old imported mvps hosts file?)
     
  8. Buddel

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    I do hope Emsisoft will keep using BD.
     
  9. Peter2150

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    I suspect you don't have to worry about that.
     
  10. Minimalist

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    I agree. BD usually performs better in file detection tests.
     
  11. guest

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    yes you have to download the new file and import it again.
    for better importation, you can reset surf protection to default settings (Settings > Factory Defaults > select Host Rules) before importing the new one.
     
  12. KevinYu0504

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    If you ask me ,
    i definitely will hope Emsi can use Bitdefender and Kaspersky database together . :D

    Bitdefener had a great detection , however it is not so suitable in Chinese area ,
    Kaspersky usually had more faster response than Bitdefender , especially in Asia .

    This is not surprising , because BD seems do not have any branch or analysis unit in China ,
    but Kaspersky do , also there are more than hundred million user in China are using Kaspersky ,
    so their cloud database must be very powerful .

    But even so , Emsi still had a powerful behavior blocker system , i believe even the malware isn't in database ,
    the system still can be protect .

    --------------------------------------

    But indeed i had a problem , maybe @guest can help me .


    About a month ago ,
    there is a website in my country confirm had be hack by someone ,
    the hacker add some CoinMiner by javascript in the website ,
    every visitors CPU using rate will start rising and stuck at about 90~100 % and never stop .

    However the Emsisoft do not have any respond ,
    only in the first day , my Malwarebytes detected the website try to connection a link which already blocked by Malwarebytes ,
    than MB jump a pop windows and warning .

    But after a day , the hacker change the link or file , and MB fail to stop the CoinMiner ,
    the strange thing is , those Anti Coinminer tool for browser all fail . :(
    and Emsisoft do not have any respond :(

    And in the third day , some member report that the Kaspersky success detected the new CoinMiner and malicious .js file , and block it .
    Again , Emsisoft do not have any respond . :(

    So , my question is , those CoinMiner do not damage or infect my system ,
    so i guess that is why behavior blocker do not respond ?

    I know i can just close the browser easy , and the problem will be no more ,
    but the new threats like CoinMiner , can Emsisoft stop those CoinMiner even those link or .js file isn't in BD or Emsi's blacklist ?

    So far i see , for the tradition security program , it seems the only way is add those CoinMiner and malicious .js file into the blacklist ,
    but can't stop CoinMiner in the first moment .


    Sorry for my basic English :oops:
     
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  13. Azure Phoenix

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    @KevinYu0504

    What are your settings for Surf Protection?
     
  14. Nitty Kutchie

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    Hi champ I am a long time user of EMSISOFT it is an ok product but phishing protection and now this new germ (mining) is of great concern I can tell you for sure EMSISOFT protection for those two are poor,I hope they come up with a solution.:thumbd:
     
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    For those worried about the rise in cryptocurrency mining, Emsisoft published a blog post in October 2017 discussing what it is, whether it's legal and a few ways to protect a device being hijacked in this manner.
     
  17. guest

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    1- Emsisoft Surf protection is a based on a blacklist (with its cons and pros), so if we don't have the site on our list, we won't detect it.
    2- submitting the site would be a first step. If you can give us the links we will add it on our list.
    3- MBAM doesn't care of the site's domains/sub-domains (unlike us) it blocks the whole IP address. Basically, they use a chainsaw, when we use a scalpel.
    4- if you use another security solutions alongside EAM, and its drivers' altitude is lower than EAM (which is set by Microsoft), it will always reacts before so EAM will have nothing to work with, hence no detection.
    Imagine it like 2 robot vacuum cleaners acting only when they detect dirt on the floor; if one is faster than the other and clean everything, the other won't have anything to do.

    EAM doesn't manage JavaScript in your web browser, unlike many, it doesn't install anything on your browser so it doesn't interfere with the web browser's normal operation.
    You will needs an extension (like uBlock Origin) that is made to prevent stuff like this rather than relying on software running outside the browser.
     
  18. KevinYu0504

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    Hi , sorry for the delay reply ,
    because we have a different time zone :(

    All my Surf Protection setting are auto and default ,
    all option is " Block and notify " , only Privacy risks is " Alert " .

    I think i am agree with your view ~ :thumb:

    Big thanks for your reply and explain !

    1.
    I think the biggest problem is , those attacker(hacker) always change the link(IP) or javascript files , so the blacklist always be too late . :(

    2.
    I had submit the link on Emsi's official forum , the link is here , you can take a look if you interest .
    https://support.emsisoft.com/topic/...re-submissions/?do=findComment&comment=179798

    I already submit , but the problem is , in this case , the website(link) i submit ,
    their website usually are normal(no infect) , because website's administrator know they had be hacked ,
    so the administrator try hard to clean those threats when they discover the malware .

    However , the hacker always can hack again and add malware(CoinMiner) when administrator is off work ,
    in that few hours , the website is infected again , anyone who visit will be infect .

    So maybe some of time when Emsi try to analysis the website ,
    it won't find any problem .


    3.
    I can't agree you more !
    The best example will be the link for
    Code:
    www.iqiyi.com
    iqiyi is a biggest video streaming website in China ,
    there are more than millions video on website ,
    and more than hundreds of millions user in China .

    To make better easy to understand ,
    analogy just like the Netflix , but China version .

    Malwarebytes almost block all the service , reason is Adware .
    however some of server i believe is innocent .

    So just like guest told ,
    :thumb:


    4.
    I understand .
    I saw GT500 talking about this on official forum .

    But looks like the Malwarebyes and Zemana can work with Emsi with out issue .



    I see .
    Yes , i already install the Adguard on my browser ,
    But the problem is , even they update every hours , but still some of time will miss some malware link or CoinMiner ,
    for example , the website i submit , those CoinMiner do not be block by Adguard or uBlock Origin in first 3 days ,
    until more people are influenced .
     
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  19. guest

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    yeah, that no one can fix that, unless they have a dynamic webpage code analyzer.

    :thumb:

    the site owner should hire someone to increase his site security.


    yes no problem using MBAM (paid) alongside EAM and just use Zemana on-demand.


    you may try Noscript extension
     
  20. KevinYu0504

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    unfortunately , those company manager likes to cost down ,
    a person to do two or three people's work . :(

    They even don't care about there employee , so no expect there will going to hire or pay more on this ... :thumbd:
    I also had a Zemana AntiLogger permium version , and i like their " Keystroke Logging Protection " ,
    as i know , this function shouldn't going to have any compatibility issue , right ?


    Thanks ! I will take a try ;)
     
  21. guest

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    does ZAL encrypt keystrokes? if not, it won't do better than EAM which prevent any local keylogger to run on your system.
    the only thing i deem reliable if you worry about keylogging is keystroke encryption.
     
  22. KevinYu0504

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    Seems yes .

    I use " SpyShelter Security Test Tool " to test :
    https://www.spyshelter.com/blog/spyshelter-security-test-tool-1-2-released/

    If i active Keystroke Logging Protection by Zemana AntiLogger ,
    the test tool only can get the words already encrypt ,
    if i disable and only using Emsisoft , than the test tool will success to get the words what i just enter .


    So Zemana AntiLogger looks still useful . :thumb:
     
  23. guest

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    Seems the case ;)
     
  24. guest

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    Emsisoft awarded VB100 certification in latest Virus Bulletin test



    https://support.emsisoft.com/topic/...-certification-in-latest-virus-bulletin-test/
     
  25. Minimalist

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    https://blog.emsisoft.com/2018/01/31/new-in-2018-1-revamped-behavior-blocker-user-experience/
     
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