Firefox's massive overhaul moves to beta

Discussion in 'other software & services' started by lotuseclat79, Mar 21, 2014.

  1. guest

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    ok i saw the issue, some extensions blocked the multi-processes feature, so i have to force it and extended the number of said processes to 16. now it looks like chrome with each process taking around 100+mb
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    we can definitely see than Chrome is far better than FF in term of security , it has Control Flow Guard enabled

    Chrome is sandboxed via ReHIPS while FF is with Sandboxie.

    In the second screenshot , we can see FF (v54) using its own newly implemented sandbox at Lv1 (max level at the moment) shown as "low" integrity level (opposed to "medium" without sandbox)
     

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  2. Rasheed187

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    Thanks, but I'm not sure if I understood it correctly. But on your pic, RAM usage of the new multi-process FF seems to be huge, am I correct? BTW, I don't really care about the sandbox, I even disable the sandbox in Opera and Vivaldi to avoid problems with SBIE. I also disabled the sandbox in Chrome (old version) and it started to act a bit weirdly.
     
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    Yep , similar to Chrome, multi-process was never about performance but more about stability and security. Honestly i don't see why people praise FF so much over Chrome because basically it is almost the same in term of resources usage but weaker on security. (except for customization maybe.)
     
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    Tab Mix Plus :thumb:
     
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    i see :)
     
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    Hopefully FF will give an option to disable multi-process, because if it uses just as much RAM as Chromium browsers I see no reason to continue to use it. Vivaldi is already better when it comes to certain features. I wonder when FF will launch the new browser engine.
     
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    you can.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 54 Beta 8 released May 16, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (11.7 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 54.0b8.exe (239 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 54.0b8.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    Yes for now, but hopefully it will stay this way. I noticed that Chrome gives a warning when you disable the sandbox and starts to act weirdly, luckily Opera and Vivaldi don't.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 54 Beta 9 released May 19, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (11.7 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 54.0b9.exe (239 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 54.0b9.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 54 Beta 10 released May 23, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (11.6 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 54.0b10.exe (260 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 54.0b10.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 54 Beta 11 released May 26, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (11.5 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 54.0b11.exe (260 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 54.0b11.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    david vs goliath!? mozilla wont fight google, thats simple not possible - nonsense article. mozilla creates only another browser with some differences to chrome. "better browser"? depends of some needs. not satisfied? dont cry a river and change browse.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 54 Beta 12 released May 30, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (11.4 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 54.0b12.exe (260 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 54.0b12.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 54 Beta 13 released June 2, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (11.3 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 54.0b13.exe (260 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 54.0b13.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 55 Beta 1 released June 14, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (27.0 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 55.0b1.exe (246 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page now downloads 55.0b1.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.

    Release Notes.
    System Requirements.

    Also, Firefox 55 for Developers.
    Firefox 55 Site Compatibility.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 55 Beta 2 released June 16, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (7.0 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 55.0b2.exe (246 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 55.0b2.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    firefox is improving, aside from E10 it now automatically drops privileges similar to what IE and chrome do.

    They getting there but they still need to fix the horrible performance issues which E10 only partially resolved.

    I think them killing the legacy platform for extensions is a death nail tho. They becoming more and more a chrome clone and people just pick the original over the imitator.
     
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    Horrible performance issues? :confused: I'm using both Firefox and Chrome (on Linux) and for me Firefox is as performant as Chrome. As a matter of fact Firefox has become faster and faster for me in the latest versions. If it is different for you there are 3 possible explanations, IMHO:

    1. Your profile might be corrupt. Try a new one (by launching firefox -p) and see if it improves things.
    2. An add-on might be the culprit. E.g., the popular Noscript is causing serious problems on some websites - something I had noticed, too. After deactivating it all is well.
    3. How did you configure Firefox? Did you select "Clear history when Firefox closes" including the cache? This isn't even possible in Chrome (unless you're using an add-on like Click & Clean). In this case it's not surprising that Chrome is faster as it can fetch lots of old data from the cache while Firefox can't.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 55 Beta 3 released June 20, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (7.6 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 55.0b3.exe (246 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page now downloads 55.0b3.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 55 Beta 4 released June 23, 2017. Now Available via Internal Updater (7.4 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 55.0b4.exe (246 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 55.0b4.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 55 Beta 5 released June 27, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (7.2 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 55.0b5.exe (246 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 55.0b5.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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    FYI. Firefox 55 Beta 7 released July 7, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (7.6 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 55.0b7.exe (240 KB).

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    FYI. Firefox 55 Beta 8 released July 11, 2017. Available via Internal Updater (7.4 MB).

    The Firefox Beta page's Free Download button downloads Firefox Setup Stub 55.0b8.exe (240 KB).

    The Download Firefox Beta in your language page downloads 55.0b8.exe's 32-bit & 64-bit versions.
     
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