VoodooShield/Cyberlock

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by CloneRanger, Dec 7, 2011.

  1. Achelous

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    Hi, I was testing VoodoShield and found a problem. Every time the VoodoAi alert appeared and I chose to sandbox (locally) to test out that functionality, VoodoShield would just crash... I re-tested it with about 8 different programs. It happened every single time.

    Has anyone else experienced this crash problem?
     
  2. Peter2150

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    The local sandbox isn't very functional. Either try the online sandbox or don't bother. And if it really isn't malware, it's not going to be that useful.
     
  3. illumination

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    Voodooshield crashed when launching applications in the local sandbox, or the applications themselves crashed when launched? Due to the restrictions of the sandbox, most applications will crash.
     
  4. Peter2150

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    BIG OUCH. Unless I am wrong and there is a setting to turn off the self protection, for me it is a DISASTER. Had to yank 355b2 off and put 353 back on.

    All the other programs that have self protection keeps them from uninstalled, turned off, etc, but that is it. But I just ran into a situation where I need to do something andn do it in a hurry, and voodooshield, did a block which was fine. But in trying to get by it as fast as possible, I inadvertently told VS to close. And then at the worst time I had a blocked computer and had to re boot. UNACCEPTABLE. Either there has to be a way to run the selfprotection off(tell me I missed it, I'd like to be wrong) but lacking that I can run a version with this selfprotection.

    It was serious enough that without an earlier version I'd just have had to remove VS.

    DAN
     
  5. zarzenz

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    I have found that with 355b2 my Win 10 start menu is not always working... back to 353 for me.
     
  6. Achelous

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    I apologize for not elaborating more in my original post, I should have been more clear; the GUI process for VoodoShield will crash whenever I choose the local sandbox option from within the VoodoAi pop-up alert. Although, the VodooShieldService.exe process will still be executing when this happens.
     
  7. illumination

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    I mentioned something to Dan along these lines in a PM a week ago, but think he has not read them yet. There's too much change happening to the product to satisfy just under a handful of users here.
     
  8. guest

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    I think Dan should lighten VS of some features that most users (average one in general) will never use , and the sandbox is one of them. If he focuses on the true power of VS (the anti-exe part) it should be better (and less hassle for him to fix). I told him that already and i think both VS and its users will benefit from it.

    Better a simple but truly effective program than a bloated buggy one. Users shouldn't influence the development of the product's core features . The dev decide and the user must learn to use it. most of the successful softs are like this.
     
  9. ExtremeGamerBR

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    I agree. Never seen the reason to put a sandbox in VS.
     
  10. Peter2150

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    Note it's not a sandbox in the traditional sense, more of an analyze tool
     
  11. VecchioScarpone

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    +2;)

    As an average user, like Peter said #14960. I almost pulled the plug on VS myself.
     
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  12. Triple Helix

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    No issues what so ever here. Maybe other users are having programs because of there other security apps? What I use in Real time is in my siggy!
     
  13. Achelous

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    Hi, I downloaded and installed the latest beta version of VoodoShield (the one containing the experimental self-defense) and got it to respond with the lock down alert so I knew it was working as it was intended to. I found a new way of bypassing VoodoShield, a bit different to process termination... Alternatively, you can attack the VSScanner service (unload the driver). :thumb:

    Not sure if this attack vector was left out intentionally or not so just wanted to ask if it's just a bug and if the self-defense should be covering that already or not. :)

    Windows 10 x64 with Windows Defender.
     
  14. wolfrun

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    Was hesitant to install 355b2 since 353 was working so well. But I bit the bullet and installed 355b2 over 353 and so far no problems. Note, I am not running any real time A/V's and using only a tightened up Sandboxie along with Voodoo. Maybe less is more? Win 7 64bit.
     
  15. plat1098

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    I'm going to have to support this statement. Developer can determine what's excess baggage and hopefully optimize the core VS. Example: protracted scanning of an admittedly exe-packed software is bringing my party down. Besides, in some ways isn't the sandbox redundant at startup with Self Protection now?

    Yes, me too, VS is a huge chunk of my security, otherwise I wouldn't bother.
     
  16. Peter2150

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    The issue I had was strictly do to the design change in VS. I was under the gun got a VS alert and accidently clicked close. By design instead of just closing VS would have been manageable. Instead by design it locked up my machine. UNACCEPTABLE!!!
     
  17. boredog

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    Peter

    What do you mean by locked up your machine? Not able to do anything?
     
  18. askmark

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    Why did closing VS lock up your machine? A normal exit should just close the application, only terminating the VS processes through a backdoor method should instigate the self-protection.
     
  19. boredog

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    When I right click the tray icon and select exit, my computer does not lock up on my end.
     
  20. Triple Helix

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    Well it should tell you that you need to reboot before you can open any other apps!

    EDIT: Sorry if you kill one of VS's processes via Task Manger it will ask you to reboot before you can open other apps which is normal now.

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  21. boredog

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    OK exit Voodoo and reboot to see if it locks up computer?
     
  22. Triple Helix

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    I edited my post above and no lock ups what so ever on both points.
     
  23. boredog

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    OK now I understand but is that what Peter did? used task manager of did he do it they way I do when installing a new program .Always click tray icon and exit.
     
  24. Triple Helix

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    I don't know, but I'm sure he will tell us more.
     
  25. Peter2150

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    Honestly I am not sure what I did, but I had a locked computer and couldn't do anything without a reboot. It may be a bug, but it's a dangerous design either way.
     
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