PrivaZer Discussion Thread

Discussion in 'privacy technology' started by The_PrivaZer_Team, Feb 15, 2013.

  1. defconoi

    defconoi Registered Member

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    I'd like to automate this via command line, I just paid for donors version, what options are available to me on the commandline?
     
  2. takiabtom

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    @ Privazer Team
    ref 1391, 1393
    Hi Guys just following up as I appear to still be failing on pagefile clean - see latest before and immediate after
    Surely I cannot be unique in this.
     
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  4. The_PrivaZer_Team

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    Hello to @all and happy new year,

    @defconoi,
    will be implemented in the next release of the donors version.
    and Forticlient will be checked.

    @takiabtom,
    as stated, Pagefile.sys is fully cleaned only when the PC is restarted.
    If it is not, then check your options in the "Advanced options" of PrivaZer, ok?

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  5. takiabtom

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    Sorry but my point is that pagefile is set for clean at each shutdown and the two screenshots in 1402 are either side of the restart. So my worries remain in that shutdown/restart appears too quick for any cleaning to have been done,furthermore the after screenshot appear to indicate that there was none. So where do I go from here?
     
  6. Krusty

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    Is there a way to re-enable the pre-scan? Maybe that is why Reliability History isn't cleaned on my machines?
     
  7. The_PrivaZer_Team

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    uncheck "Start cleaning" in the scan window of PrivaZer.
     
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    Oh, is that it?

    You haven't reproduced this yet by any chance?
     
  9. The_PrivaZer_Team

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    @Krusty,

    not reproduced yet...

    @takiabtom,
    before restarting your PC, please check that the value of ClearPageFileAtShutdown is set to 1 at
    HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\Memory Management
    ok?
     
  10. Krusty

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    Doing that seems to solve the problem. Reliability History does look like it is cleaned but it is much slower and less convenient than with v3.0.12.

    Thanks.
     
  11. takiabtom

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    I guess this looks ok so it should be working but does not appear to be doing so
     
  12. Krusty

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    Have you even tried? 100% reproducible on 3 Windows 10 machines here. :rolleyes:
     
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  14. takiabtom

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    Here is my screenshot for what it is worth. This is really bugging me coz win10 has been a real pain and I have had to reinstall twice already. Although the shutdown is very quick startup can take up to 8 minutes now - clutching at straws but I suppose the long start is nothing to do with pagefile ?
     
  15. The_PrivaZer_Team

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    Nothing to do with pagefile.

    1. Maybe a program is slowing down your PC.

    2. If your startup is slow, please check your sectors.
      Open an admin command prompt and run :

      chkdsk /F /R C:

      (it needs a PC reboot)
    Keep us posted.
     
  16. The_PrivaZer_Team

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    New PrivaZer v3.0.15 released!!:)

    @Krusty, please give it a try as we added the cleanup of WER
    @defconoi, command lines will be added in the next version of the donors version. Sorry for delay.
     
  17. Krusty

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    Hi @The_PrivaZer_Team ,

    I have no entries in Reliability History to check if this is resolved now or not but a quick observation:

    Check the "Start Cleaning" box, when the initial scan phase is finished you will see a countdown window. Just before cleaning starts the next window looks like it is in French not English.

    Thanks.
     
  18. Krusty

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    No, with "Start Cleaning" box ticked Reliability History is not cleaned. What ever changes in the code from 3.0.12 to 3.0.13 has caused this.
     

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    Same machine, this time without "Start Cleaning" enabled. Yes, I restarted after each run of PrivaZer.
     

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  20. takiabtom

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    ok - thank you so much - it took for ever to run but I am now back to a normal startup.
    I am on 3.0.15. Chkdsk appears to have written to the pagefile as I have just run memory scan and it says 100 % to clean
    I cleaned and restarted using Privazer and immediately re-ran memory scan once the (now fast/normal) startup was complete.
    I suspect you will have guessed that Privazer still says 100% pagefile to clean !!!!!! screen shots attached.
    So here we are still - any more clues suggestions?
     
  21. The_PrivaZer_Team

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    Windows issue, I presume.
    1. Try to set "no paging file" in your Windows settings
    2. Restart your PC
    3. Recheck "System managed file"
    4. Restart your PC
    5. Run PrivaZer + clean "Memory"
    6. Restart your PC
    7. Re-run PrivaZer to check your paging file.

    ok?


    @Krusty,
    Thanks for the details. I will check this out
     
  22. takiabtom

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    Thankyou for your patience but alas it was again a busted flush - even with a new pagefile.
    Is there any way to debug i.e. to check that there is a Privazer command or whatever in the shutdown process for a clean of pagefile and that it is being actioned and or bypassed by some other process/command Screenshot (20).png Screenshot (21).png Screenshot (22).png
     
  23. jwcca

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    1) you run "programX" and the system puts traces into the pagefile
    2) you clean the pagefile and the traces of "programX" are gone
    3) you check the pagefile and that puts new traces in the pagefile, so it's not empty, but the traces of "programX" are gone.
     
  24. takiabtom

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    Thanks for your input jwcca - much appreciated but to a non techie this does not gel

    Sure any program must utilize pagefile presumably if insufficient RAM
    The process of cleaning with Privazer used to leave me with a pagefile that the graphic display of pagefile contents would be nigh on empty when I reran it.
    Now I find that my pagefile of over 3Gb mostly remains unchanged and almost fully written, not slightly or partially, according to the same graphic display.
    I also cannot see how the mere process of startup can cause the pagefile to be nearly fully written and furthermore it does not sound correct that the mere process of scanning (not writing) the file will fill it up once again, if it ever had been cleaned. Finally the process of my shutdown is so fast that it seems impossible for there to have be a clean of 3Gb.
     
  25. jwcca

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    @ takiabtom
    MS has an information page that may help explain.
    https://support.microsoft.com/en-us...page-file-size-for-64-bit-versions-of-windows
    It seems to depend on what the OS determines to be "infrequently used pages" to be swapped to the pagefile, the size of your physical memory vs. the size of the pagefile, etc.
    For example, if the pagefile size is controlled by you and you minimize it, it will have a higher % fill rate.
    If you let the OS manage the size it will be a bigger file but the % fill rate will be lower (I think, but....).
    Some programs write to the pagefile even when there's sufficient memory available which leads to a higher % fill rate.

    My answer was aimed at what I thought were your concerns that traces of a specific "program X" would remain in the page file if not "cleaned".
     
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