Windows 10 Announced - Released 29-Jul-2015

I preferred the CP, on the desktop. I suppose the Settings is to cater for new stuff, and make it more 'finger friendly'.
But I guess they need to work towards one consistent, unified panel.

 

Since they promised constant updating and adding new features, users might get a feeling of using a never-finished product.

 

I still hate having settings and control panel. it was bad enough on windows 8 and i really thought they would of solved it with 10 but they haven't yet. it feels so disjointed having two separate settings.

 

I am just hoping they don't do away entirely with Control Panel and things like Computer Management and so on. Some of those things are hard to live without. If they dumb it down too much, people will suffer. But yeah, it is a little schizophrenic at the moment.....

 

Thanks @stapp. Yes, I did that but it still didn't show. Just Sleep and Lock.
I saw here it can be enabled (scroll down) http://www.howtogeek.com/243901/the-pros-and-cons-of-windows-10s-fast-startup-mode/
but I don't really want to enable it only to disable it.
Just intrigued why hibernate is off on this machine (Lenovo ThinkPad i7 Yoga), I don't remember ever messing with that.

 

Announcing Windows 10 Insider Preview Build 14383 for PC and Mobile
July 7, 2016
https://blogs.windows.com/windowsex...nsider-preview-build-14383-for-pc-and-mobile/

 

OK that was short-lived.

After five days in Windows 10 land, for the last day or so I have been unable to boot to completion. Windows stopped responding.
I enabled hibernation as above, and then saw Fast Start was indeed ticked 'under the hood'. Unticking it has made no difference however.
Nor did several other fixes amongst those listed here: http://windowsreport.com/random-freeze-windows-10/
Interestingly, restoring to earlier Win 10 images when I didn't have this issue, didn't work either.
I am out of ideas, and I don't think I have the motivation to troubleshoot the issue or do a clean install.

So back to Win 8.1. Pity really, as I would ideally like to be on Win 10. At least I have activated the Win 10 license, and have an image in case a solution comes to light.

Anyway, I suppose this should have been in the Windows 10 problems thread ...

 

Bummer; maybe try again when they release the new anniversary update build on August 2nd?

 

I guess so.

It is very strange, as I didn't have this at all during the first few days, other than some random intermittent freezes (heavy memory usage, which I did not investigate). The only new soft I installed was Start10, but it worked after that also.

Maybe I should have mentioned that the freezing only started happening after a complete power down i.e the power was accidentally disconnected. However, I don't know why would this would produce the issue.

As you say, I may give it another shot after August 2nd.

Edit: I am assuming I would just be able to go through the upgrade process again then, and for free?

 

My understanding is when you upgrade successfully to 10 the license is activated and tied to the hardware, so there shouldn't be an issue when reinstalling (fingers crossed)

Edit: check out this article.

http://windowssecrets.com/langalist-plus/preserve-a-free-windows-10-upgrade-for-later-use/

 

I have also upgraded for about a week and I really can't make up my mind as to whether to go back to Win 8.1 or stay with Win 10. None of them really stands out in my layman's judgement. I have experienced something quite weird though, while powering down the machine it switched into a blue screen similar to those update screens which display the warning "do not shut down your computer" for at least 15 minutes. It eventually shut down and it hasn't happened again (it didn't seem an error though). My biggest gripe is the booting time: 90 seconds to see the desktop (without 'fast startup') although it shuts down quickly, 15 sec.

I have a question for Victek or Roger, in (C) there is a folder 'Windows.old' which is about 20 GB. Is it used by MS to rollback the machine to Windows 8.1? I suppose that if I decide to stay with Win 10 I can delete it without any consequences... 20 GB extra makes backup images unnecessarily large...

 

Yes, it is safe to delete it if you don't want to rollback. Or, you could leave it and it will get deleted after the 30 day rollback period ends. The best way to delete it is by using Microsoft's included Disk Cleanup.

 

@Roger Thanks! I think I'll follow your suggestion to leave it for the 30 day rollback period just in case...

 

Osaban,

Once your hardware is registered with the Microsoft servers your worries are over. You can delete and reinstall Win10 to the same or a different drive and the new Win10 will be Activated. You can even restore a Win10 image from another computer and the restored Win10 will be Activated.

 

Brian, I'm aware of the Win 10 activation. In Settings/Update & security/Activation/Windows/Product key, it says "Windows 10 on this device is activated with a digital entitlement". My original worry was that I upgraded from Win 8.1 to win 10 using 'Samsung Recovery' to back up my system just in case of an upgrade disaster. Believe it or not, everything works well on Win 10 except for Samsung Recovery, therefore if I ever wanted to go back to Win 8.1 I would have to rely on the Windows rollback process which apparently works quite well.

I'm almost certain that I will remain with Win 10, I guess it can only improve in the near future. As for Samsung Recovery, no more, from now on I will only rely on Macrium Reflect

 

You can also restore your Macrium Reflect image of the Win 8.1 system to go back from Win10.

 

Well this is the problem i have no image of 8.1 created with Macrium, I was using only Samsung Recovery to create an image on this machine. Anyways as I said, I feel positive about Win 10, and I will try to go back to Win 8.1 as a last resort if in three weeks time I'm totally disappointed.

 

Article is paid content. Not really much help if you don't have the premium. subscription

 

Try this:
http://www.howtogeek.com/253901/get-windows-10-for-free-after-july-29th-with-a-little-prep-now/

 

Oops, my apologies. I do have a subscription for Windows Secrets and I didn't realize that article wasn't free content.

Step 1. Make a full backup or system image of your current Win7/8.1 setup.

Step 2. Download and set aside the Win10 installation files (ISO or flash drive) from a Microsoft site such as Get Windows 10 or Windows 10 Tech Bench Upgrade Program.

Step 3. Upgrade your Win7/8 PC to Win10 via Windows Update or by using the installation medium you just created in Step 2.

Step 4. When initially setting up Win10, use your Microsoft Account username/password as the primary sign in. (If you don’t already have a Microsoft Account, you can create one on the fly.) Note: You can later change to another sign-in method such as PIN, facial-recognition, local account, or other. But it’s important to initially associate your new Win10 setup with your Microsoft Account.

Step 5. When requested, activate Win10. (If you’re asked for a product key, use your Win7/8.1 key.) Activating the new Win10 installation will permanently associate it with your hardware.

Step 6. Once Win10 is activated, create and save a new complete backup or system image of the Win10 setup. Third-party tools make Win10 system imaging easy; I prefer to use Macrium’s Reflect (free; free-trial/paid), but you can find many other tools with a simple Web search.

Step 7. Use Win10’s built-in roll-back mechanism to revert to your original Win7 or 8.1 setup. (Be aware: This option is available for up to 30 days after installing Win10; see MS Support page, “Going back to Windows 7 or Windows 8.1.”)

Step 8. If the roll-back process fails, use the backup or system image you created in Step 1 to restore your original setup.

Step 9. When you’re ready to finally switch to Win10 for keeps, upgrade your PC via the preserved installation medium you created in Step 2. When setting up Win10, use the same Microsoft account you used in Step 4. With the same person setting up the same Win10 on the same PC, Microsoft should be able to find and reuse your original, completely valid digital license; and Win10 should activate normally.

Step 10. If the upgrade fails for any reason, save your current user files to a safe location. Next, restore the Win10 backup or system image you made in Step 6. Because that Win10 installation was already activated, it should pick up from where it left off, without a hitch. Then restore your user files from wherever you placed them — and you’ll be off and running!

 

#2707:
https://www.wilderssecurity.com/thre...ased-29-jul-2015.368734/page-109#post-2600424