AppGuard 4.x 32/64 Bit - Releases

Discussion in 'other anti-malware software' started by Jryder54, Oct 29, 2013.

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  1. Cutting_Edgetech

    Cutting_Edgetech Registered Member

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    I'm working on list of functionality, and features that have been request to be integrated into AppGuard over the last several years. I may not remember all of them, but I think I remember all of the one's everyone deemed most important. I'm doing it in between doing a bunch of other projects i'm working on, but I may have it done by tomorrow. I will post it here, and then email BRN so they have a good reference to look at so they don't have to go through the thread. It's just no practical to try to go back through the thread to find them.
     
  2. marzametal

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    I would not shy away from paying anything less than $100, provided it is a lifetime licence, considering I was willing to pay that price for Bouncer (not taking into account currency exchange rates). I don't mind if there are restrictions based on installation; as long as they can be tracked and modified on the user side. For more info on this, have a look at how AdGuard handles its licence renewal/registration for fresh installs/reinstalls. I would prefer it if we are not charged for version upgrades, similar to what Acronis does.
     
  3. hjlbx

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    40 to 50 % of the time a PID is returned - instead of the process name\path - on W8.1 and W10.

    Creating exceptions is required in order for a lot of software to function with AppGuard installed; a significant percentage of software developers do not adhere to Microsoft's guidelines regarding the file system, registry, and interfaces. That's a trend that continues to grow and an undeniable fact..

    So it is no surprise then that tracking down which block events are causing problems is necessity. However, with the current interface it is not the most user-friendly to determine what process was blocked. In some cases, it can never be determined from within AppGuard itself.

    If registry and other block events never break anything, then why record and report them to the user in the first place ?
     
  4. newbino

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    +++1 have asked for this twice already, it's a pain having to do it manually
     
  5. marzametal

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    How is it a pain to navigate to two directories and copy an xml file from each? (if you use Admin & LUA)... it is less monkey work than organising a mp3 playlist for tomorrow's drive to work. I don't find it a pain; it's only done when I am ready for a backup.
     
  6. hjlbx

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    Some user's have complicated config = really big hassle to configure softs to work with AppGuard (completely manual process) every time they clean install OS.

    Export\Import AppGuard custom config would save a lot of time and work.
     
  7. marzametal

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    Can you provide an example of a complicated config?
    The only reason I ask is... once the config is set up, it is... set up.
     
  8. hjlbx

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    There is no way to save (Export) AppGuard configuration in current version.

    Clean install OS, reinstall softs, reinstall AppGaurd - and you have to completely recreate AppGuard configuration.

    Export\Import AppGuard configuration would save user a lot of hassle.

    Here is a partial list of a complicated config:
    • AppGuard
    • Adguard
    • Sandboxie
    • HitmanPro.Alert
    • NoVirusThanks Exe Radar Pro
    • Windows Firewall Control
    • Secure Folders
    • Quarri MyPOQ
    • Rollback RX
    • PeaZip
    • Q-Dir
    • NitroPDF
    • Kingsoft's WPS
    • Firefox Nightly
    The above config requires hours of work to get it to function correctly with AppGuard. Export\Import the AppGuard = 45 seconds.
     
  9. guest

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    with all respect your case is not the case of everyone...some pople are skilled enough to manually do it others don't...

    example for them:

    1- AG has a restore default button, so it is here, i guess in case of you made a mistake you can't pinpoint in your config, so they click it.

    2- then they spend for 30-45mn to redo their config hoping to find the problem...?
    3- then they still haven't found it
    4- go step 1 & 2 again and again until they find it?

    come on... import will take 10sec everytime


    how is it complicated to a dev team to code just 2 buttons...their software is not free, so they have to make it a minimum user-friendly; if not make Appguard freeware and nobody will complain anymore...every software does it for convenience, why not AG?
     
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  10. Circuit

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    No wonder the price of software is high.
    It works leave it alone.
     
  11. marzametal

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    ...about copying over an xml file into the relevant user directory after new install...
    Clean install OS, reinstall softs, reinstall AppGaurd - and you have to completely recreate AppGuard configuration
    Copy over the xml file you stored before performing the new install over to the relevant user directory (sync folders up just in case you installed to a different location), hit reboot... happy days.
    Where did you place those security apps: Guarded or Power?

    with all respect your case is not the case of everyone...some pople are skilled enough to manually do it others don't...
    It's all good guest, we're just typing :)
    • It's a bit hard to make a mistake on AppGuard; all AppGuard provides you with is various interfaces to include files and directory references. There are buttons present already to delete/modify entries. If you think AppGuard handles this in a ugly fashion, what about Sandboxie and custom-made addons such as Block Process Access
    • If you run Admin and LUA, you cannot restore a config for another account; you will have to switch user or reboot into other user to import config. No matter what way you look at it, some manual labour is required to get this done twice (unless primary profile is LUA, which means only one xml file is needed)
    • In this thread so many pages were dedicated to Google Chrome and its silent install into user profile directory, as opposed to Program Files/x86. If memory serves me correctly, not once did a user mention a lack of import/export feature (I won't bet my life on it, and am not interested in reading the thread for a 4th time just to confirm...). They were more interested in knowing how to get things to work rather than archiving configs...
     
  12. Peter2150

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    The arguments about needing import for weak users is so weak. If it's so tough they need the import/export, how did they get it down the first time. Afraid I am not buying it. Copy and paste just isn't all that difficult
     
  13. Jarmo P

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    It is best to make that import and export settings feature, instead people have to look in this thread of what to do.
     
  14. hjlbx

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    @Peter2150 - so now it's the "weak user's" fault ? Myself and @guest "weak" users ? I forgive you @Peter2150 because I realize you simply cannot help yourself.

    Everyone on this thread loves AppGuard - and I get that. However, members here represent less than 1/10th of 1 % of all typical AppGuard users. And it's typical users that generate virtually all the profit for home security soft products. So a product such as AppGuard needs to appeal to everyone - from a beginner\novice to the super-geek. AppGuard has great protections. It needs better usability. And I'm not the only one who thinks its usability and interface are not as good as they could be.

    Adding convenient features to AppGuard doesn't diminish its protections. However, it does greatly improve usability for typical users.

    Blue Ridge already has included most of the suggestions on this thread on their road map (prior to them even being posted \ mentioned here) - so obviously BRN was already aware - long before this debate - that there are usability issues with AppGuard that need to be improved.

    BRN is also instituting a subscription-based sales model to support on-going development...
     
  15. hjlbx

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    :thumb:

    Common Sense = only a handful of AG users are on this thread.
     
  16. Peter2150

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    I said the argument was weak. If all the setting were in the registry, then yes, import export would be vital as it would be tough for most people to get to, but when all you have to do is copy an xml file to another directory, that isn't tough.

    And yes there are some good ideas for sure, but it takes money to implement them. If BRN goes to a subscription model then yes it will be easier for them to justify the work.
     
  17. guest

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    yes but to do it , you have to google it , come to wilders, does it make it a nonsense? when it can be done in the interface.

    the money argument is not a factor i think, Appguard is quite renowned in corporation and homeland administration , so i dont think they lack of money.

    for me, they get incomes from corporations so they focus on them logically; and us, home users , we just have to wait, when BRN have enough time to fill our requests.

    i forgot that Wilders is only oriented for security pro...im sorry for that /sarcasm :D

    Now more seriously, many people are using Appguard since it got some awards and it's widely discussed and recommended on some forums like ours.

    if being a beginner forbid you to use some "home users" softs , better the soft stay corporate.
     
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  18. guest

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    one day i deleted a default rule in the user-space, due to a freeze of my system, i couldn't recall what i deleted...wasted 45mn to redo all my config while 10sec would suffice if i had a import button.

    not a big hassle but still an hassle...

    because Google sync the settings :D

    as @hjlbx said, we all love AG it is why we keep insisting of implementations of some basic features; if i didn't care about AG i wouldn't spend time in this thread.
     
  19. newbino

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    I invite you to time that from desktop (including searching for the procedure if you don't know it as well as locating the folders and the later restore) vs any application that has an export/import settings and then tell me the difference. I don't know about you, while I care about my protection I don't enjoy tinkering around with my pc and have better things to do with my time
     
  20. newbino

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    thank you for putting this clearly
     
  21. Mr.X

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    For me there are no excuses for not implementing an export/import settings feature. Even free software has it, all the more reason for BRN to include in AppGuard since it's a paid software no matter under what model it is currently sold.
     
  22. guest

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    same here, i could do the manual way , but i prefer use my time for other matters than re-doing my setup, when 10 seconds would suffice.

    you are welcome.

    exactly.
     
  23. Peter2150

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    The first part is conjecture. I don't think we know for sure. The 2nd part is reality, but only part of the picture. Enterprise generally is priced higher, and requires less support. Home use versions are cheaper and require more support. Look at some of the software like Invincea's software, or Sophos Endpoint solutions. They don't post prices because it is typically in the 50-75 range with a minimum of number of seats, which prices it right out of the home market. Also settings aren't a big issue as it is done remotely by one administrator. So we don't have access to that software as individuals

    Also my years of experience in several areas of the corporate world shows me that no company that wants to survive will take the position that okay in area a we are very profitable so in area b it's okay to lose a bit of money. Nope they will demand that both a and b be profitable which means they have to do things differently in b. I'd bet that's the case with Appguard.

    Bottom line. I agree there are some shortcomings as listed here. Also there some other things I'd love to see. But bottom line is they might not happen, and I for one am just grateful that BRN has chosen to make Appguard available to me at an affordable price.
     
  24. Mr.X

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    Fair enough. I must admit I agree with you in this one too LOL
    But we wanted to vent out our little frustrations on AG shortcomings. :)
     
  25. guest

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    Avast, Comodo, Malwarebyte's and many others do. free for home users (with possibility of paid upgrades) , and paid corporate services.

    whatever their motives, if you want hit the home user market efficiently, user-friendly GUI and features are necessary.

    indeed :D
     
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