Image For Windows

Discussion in 'backup, imaging & disk mgmt' started by Stigg, Apr 15, 2014.

  1. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    I found it.

    Thanks Brian.
     
  2. mantra

    mantra Registered Member

    Hi Brian
    do you use PHYLock or windows VSS ?
    which is more safe and trusty?
    thanks
     
  3. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    mantra,

    I use PHYLock. It works for me and it has no file exclusions (apart from PageFile and Hibernation file), unlike VSS. Maybe losing the excluded files when you restore a VSS created backup isn't important but I just like the idea of backing up and restoring "everything".
     
  4. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    I've never been able to get PHYLock to work.
    It just times out.
     
  5. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

  6. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    I don't get any errors, Brian.
    It just times out to whatever the maximum wait time is (default: 10 minutes) and then, I assume it uses VSS after that.
     
  7. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    Try reducing the Write Free Time (ms) from 4250 to 3000 or 2000. If that doesn't help, use VSS.

    If you let it time out to 10 minutes, PHYLock commences without a Write Free Time. It doesn't sound like a good option to me.
     
  8. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    I might try that one day
    I might try that when I feel like experimenting.
    VSS has worked flawlessly for me in the past with IFW and Reflect. Not sure if it is worth messing around with. :doubt:
     
  9. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    Can you look in C:\Windows\System32\config

    Do you have any .regtrans-ms or .blf files (file extensions)?

    When I was testing VSS I noted a lot of these files. A few hundred MB. I've no idea why they occurred. Deleting them didn't create any problems.
     
  10. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    No, I don't have anything like that in there.
     
  11. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    I just remembered they are Protected OS files so to see them you have to remove the tick from "Hide protected OS files" in folder options.

    If you don't feel comfortable doing this you can use TBOSDT.

    Run TBOSDT Pro and type these lines (Press Enter after each line)
    C:
    CD \Windows\System32\config
    list files *.regtrans-ms
    list files *.blf

    I just checked and I only have 8 .regtrans-ms and 4 .blf
     
  12. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    Yeah, they are there.
     
  13. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

  14. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    12 .regtrans-ms
    6 .blf
     
  15. Brian K

    Brian K Imaging Specialist

    That's OK. You don't have the issue I experienced. Thanks.
     
  16. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    I'm so thankful for that. :isay:
     
  17. Hadron

    Hadron Registered Member

    How do you clear the IFW Notify log?
    I have tried deleting IFW.LOG in C:\Program Files (x86)\TeraByte Unlimited\Image for Windows\V2, but IFW Notify still displays all my logs.

    I don't need to see so many logs. It is pointless to me looking back at months of logs that the images for have already been deleted.
     
  18. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

    Hi Brian

    I have a recovery question. Using IFL on USB, my restore time on my main Desktop is 11 Minutes, which is excellent. The other way I can easily recover is boot to the Macrium RE, use windows explorer in the RE, and run IFW, from another internal drive. Works well, except the restore time goes to 25 minutes. Would bulding a WinPE recovery environment, offer a restore speed similiar to IFL, and is there any reason to bother. I am finally getting comfortable with the IFL restore which is why I ask.

    Pete
     
  19. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

    Hi Pete! I believe you'll find using the Macrium WinRE Recovery Environment to offer the exact same Windows I/O structure (and speed) as a WinPE IFW build would give you. I can't think of anything in the two environments that differ in any way as it relates to I/O performance under Windows.

    But I'm sure Brian will have a better perspective on this as he's run them all a thousand times :cool:
     
  20. Peter2150

    Peter2150 Global Moderator

    Thanks Froggie. I'll be curious as to his take on it. The IFL is the absolute speed winner even being much faster then a full Macrium restore.
     
  21. TheRollbackFrog

    TheRollbackFrog Imaging Specialist

    It's "fast" due primarily to the Linux disk level I/O facility which has always been fast. Macrium could never use that due to the design involved with their current product but has used it in the past for simple restores.
     
  22. MudCrab

    MudCrab Imaging Specialist

    Pete,

    I mainly use TBWinRE for restores and have a few questions, if you don't mind.

    Did you use the same options for both the IFL and IFW restores? Was it a Full image or an Incremental/Differential?

    What version of WinPE is Macrium using? It could make a difference since some include better/different drivers by default.

    What version of Windows is it?

    Is the backup image located on the USB drive? If it is, is the drive 2.0 or 3.0? If USB 3.0, IFL has those drivers included. WinPE/RE will if based on Windows 8+ or if they're added to Windows 7-base (and function).

    As for building the TBWinRE boot media (available for Windows 7+) it generally just takes a couple minutes (less on a fast system). You could create it and see if you notice a difference on your system. I tend to mostly use TBWinRE based on Windows 8.1 or 10 as they seem the fastest and most universal.
     
  23. oliverjia

    oliverjia Registered Member

    Not sure about that. On all 5 of my computers, the speed of full backup/restore using Acronis boot USB (based on WinPE 5 x64) has been a lot faster than using IFL boot USB.
     
  24. crofttk

    crofttk Registered Member

    Since I turned primarily to Macrium Reflect in past half year for imaging/restores, I still maintain IFL (which has been my primary for last few years) for redundant parallel usage in tandem with Macrium (belt & suspenders) imaging for very important things like before and after my household Win10 upgrades and clean installs.
     
  25. Robin A.

    Robin A. Registered Member

    Not very universal for me. When I create a boot medium using WinRE in a UEFI Windows 8.1/10 Dell laptop, and then try to use it in a Windows 7 machine, the keyboard and mouse don“t work.
     
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